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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Observe the Behaviour of the Skeptics in this thread closely. They are doing precisely what was described in the second post on page 1.
* Not addressing the points brought up in the opening posts (diversion & deflection)
* Not offering their own thoughts and arguments but providing links
* Labeling something some authority disagreed with as "Debunked" (Disagreement does not equal a Debunk)
* One skeptic keeps posting in oversized-letters to deflect from the weakness of his argument
* Taking out one piece of data (puzzle-piece) while ignoring the rest.
* Addressing subjects that werent even brought up (easily debunkable subjects)...such as the one who brought up cave-art on the first page.
So far neither the points brought up in the OP nor the follow-up posts were addressed in any scholary manner.
Look and Learn!
The archaeological expedition, which carried out excavations near the Indian settlement of Mohenjo-Daro in the beginning of the 1900s, uncovered the ruins of a big ancient town. The town belonged to one of the most developed civilizations in the world. The ancient civilization existed for two or three thousand years. However, scientists were a lot more interested in the death of the town, rather than in its prosperity.
Researchers tried to explain the reason of the town's destruction with various theories. However, scientists did not find any indications of a monstrous flood, skeletons were not numerous, there were no fragments of weapons, or anything else that could testify either to a natural disaster or a war. Archaeologists were perplexed: according to their analysis the catastrophe in the town had occurred very unexpectedly and it did hot last long.
Scientists Davneport and Vincenti put forward an amazing theory. They stated the ancient town had been ruined with a nuclear blast. They found big stratums of clay and green glass. Apparently, archaeologists supposed, high temperature melted clay and sand and they hardened immediately afterwards. Similar stratums of green glass can also found in Nevada deserts after every nuclear explosion.
A hundred years have passed since the excavations in Mohenjo-Daro. The modern analysis showed, the fragments of the ancient town had been melted with extremely high temperature – not less than 1,500 degrees centigrade. Researchers also found the strictly outlined epicenter, where all houses were leveled. Destructions lessened towards the outskirts. Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro – their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.
The great ancient Indian epic, the Mahabharata, contains numerous legends about the powerful force of a mysterious weapon. One of the chapters tells of a shell, which sparkled like fire, but had no smoke. “When the shell hit the ground, the darkness covered the sky, twisters and storms leveled the towns. A horrible blast burnt thousands of animals and people to ashes. Peasants, townspeople and warriors dived in the river to wash away the poisonous dust.”
Originally posted by NavalFC
reply to post by Skyfloating
oh yes, damn the skeptics who demand real evidence, instead of looking at some cave drawings and say "aliens!" and such.
Cave drawings an be fascinating but none conslusiverly show aliens. There are no alien remains, no alien devices left behind, no nothing. The idea that man was somehow to stupid to do alot of the things man has done without alien ntervention is frankly insulting.
Originally posted by Alter-Ego
I find it extremely difficult to believe that if we had reached that level of technology..that EVERY SINGLE PIECE of hardware or software, every nut or bolt, fastener, machine or evidence of related materials could be utterly destroyed.. or covered up. The world is a pretty big place relative to our size.. I think it more probable that ancient man described things he had no way of interpreting in the only fashion he knew how to at the time.
Originally posted by dariousg
But the argument of nothing being left behind could easily be discounted with the argument that the governments of the world have most likely known of this contact (if it indeed took place) and could very well have confiscated ALL of the evidence that is ever discovered.
Originally posted by dariousg
This is what kills me. We, being so egocentric as we are, must believe that in order for a civilazation to be technically advanced that they must have used the same tools and methods that we use today. That they must have smelted iron and steel and used nuts and bolts and so on.
What about working WITH the natural elements around us? Although we do NOT do that now I believe that an advanced society, as closely or even further than our own, could exist in tune with nature. Craft and buildings utilizing the energy fields found within crystals and objects present on our planet.
Yeah, that is pretty far fetched but what I am trying to get across is that we cannot fall into the trap of comparing our world to any other potential past advanced civilizations.
People found three tumulus of Western Han Dynasty here unexpectedly in 1972. Later on Mawangdui became the abbreviated name of these three tumulus of Western Han Dynasty. The exploration of Mawangdui tumulus is a great archaeological discovery that shocks the whole world in the 20th century.
It is a “non-rotten” female corpse in the tumulus that let Mawangdui tumulus be well known. This female corpse has already been buried under the ground more than 2,200 years. But the appearance is perfect while excavating, the skin of whole body is fine and smooth, the subcutaneous fat is plump, muscles are whippy, even loops and whorls on a finger are all very clear, nearly like fresh corpse. Inject preservative into her body, her blood vessel can bulge unexpectedly, this is one miracle that shocks world.
CHANGSHA: The bones of an ancient female mummy excavated from the Mawangdui Tombs in Central China more than 30 years ago, are starting to disintegrate. According to Luo Xuegang, head of the human anatomy research centre with Xiangya Medical Sciences College, the bones of the female mummy of Western Han Dynasty (206 BC-AD 24) have started to decalcify. The discovery was made through a recent X-ray observation. "The decalcification might be caused by the fluids used to preserve the body being too acid. We can adjust the pH to ensure the ...
Originally posted by Time=Now
Originally posted by Zepherian (...)
What you, any individual such as myself know, is not what is known in the 'big picture spectrum of things'... The complete set of comomon knowledge exists in all verifiable written records, by inference (putting 2 & 2 together) & simply conencting the dots. I'm sorry for bringing up David Icke's compilation information regarding the evidence of reptilians & extraterrrestials, but just do a google search & find the PDF for free. - You can also find 'The book of Enoch, which is HIGHLY interesting, for it clearly describes 'the watchers' & how at one time ETs lived amongst us in the open.
Furthermore, there are paintings from back then that depict flying machines in the background... And my religious co-worker scoffs at me for 'believing in aliens'. Really.
Sherry shriner, um, HELLO?
PS: I don't believe everything she says, but the prominent people in this field are on the right track, that's for sure! AND I'm NOT TALKING ABOUT MICHEAL FRIGGING MOORE or any other shill!
[edit on 3-12-2008 by Time=Now]
Originally posted by RFBurns
Not a single one of them can provide hard evidence like that shown in the pictures to support their "theory".
Originally posted by Nohup
One tiny obviously machined screw or bolt. Is that too much to ask?