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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:39 AM by NephraTari
reply to post by Skyfloating


Daniken and Hancock are champions of this idea yes, and Hancock is a personal favorite of mine. I am a huge fan of his work. The man has a brilliant mind and has done more research in this field than anyone else that I know of.

Excellent thread Sky. starred and flagged!



reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:50 AM by SS,Naga
reply to post by Fastwalker81



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:03 AM by Hanslune
reply to post by Skyfloating



So how are they not hieroglyphs Sky?

Here is a question, were the panels translated in the 19th century? Yes
or no? If they were how could they have been if they weren't hieroglyphs? Since those poor Egyptologists wouldn't have known what those odd shapes were, why did they translate them as Egyptian, how could they?

Again your ignore the context of the panel, again what does the panel -which is in hieroglyphs, to the left of your panel say? What does the panel to the right, which is in hieroglyphs, say? Do you notice that the flow of the message is..broken, its like something is missing, oh wait if you add in your panel the message makes perfect sense

Why is that Sky?

I look forward to the creative way you will avoid answering these questions. LOL

Oh by the way Sky what is the date of the Abydos panel - what does that date tell you?



Given the Indian texts are littered with vivid and technical descriptions of advanced flying vehicles, it's hardly unlikely the Egyptians knew, saw or heard about them.


What you are referring to is a well known fake translation made in the 1920s


[edit on 4/12/08 by Hanslune]


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:06 AM by Skyfloating
reply to post by SaviorComplex



They havent been noticed elsewhere up to now because elsewhere we have actual hieroglyphs...which these are obviously not.

More to the point: Occams Razor asks of us to use the most simple and obvious, without distortion. When I showed this to my little sister many years ago and asked her what she saw, she said: "A helicopter, a tank, a sub".

Very simple and straightforward, no distortion necessary.

Tell me: What is the statistical likelihood of all these objects being found in one place?



reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:13 AM by SS,Naga
reply to post by cosmicpixie



This has all been addressed many times and proves little to skeptics, or the young & unfamiliar. I think this thread is of little benefit, as has been shown on many occassions, sorry. It can possibly serve as a launching board to some, as they are better off studying more direct/complete sources.

Nothing will be resolved with this thread, unfortunately.

Learn the rather necessary methods of inner encountering: the 4th dimension abounds with consciousnesses awaiting to contact the seekers of the unknown. Of course, it is also fraught with peril, but so is all life experience.

Not dissing the thread, just understanding that it isn't accomplishing much. Personal inquiry will do the job. True insight does not attain (usually) in an atmosphere of strong negativity, which is why the americans are so far behind the russians, who reached out against even their own disbeliefs (as necessity ['beat the americans!]).


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:14 AM by jjkenobi
As far as regarding the possibility that these AATs or chosen ones are fallen angels or nephilim Mt Hermon has always been a fascinating topic to me. I believe Mt Hermon is the highest point in Isreal and is nicknamed "Gate of the Gods" or "Gate of the Fallen Angels".






The Book of Enoch says that when the angels "fell" to earth they came down at Mt Hermon.


"And the angels, the sons of the heavens, saw and lusted after them, and said one to another: ‘Behold, we will choose for ourselves wives from among the children of men, and will beget for ourselves children.'"

And they descended on Ardîs, which is the summit of Mount Hermon; and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn on it and bound themselves mutually by a curse" (Enoch 6:1-6).



If you subscribe to the ley lines theory and that certain places of the planet are "thinner" or easier to cross dimensions Mt Hermon has some interesting coordinates:



The book of Joshua connects giants and Mt Hermon:


"And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,

"And reigned in mount Hermon, and in Salcah, and in all Bashan, unto the border of the Geshurites and the Maachathites, and half Gilead, the border of Sihon king of Heshbon. "

Them did Moses the servant of the LORD and the children of Israel smite" (Joshua 12:4-6)


And the Mt is covered in Baal temples and altars:


In a book entitled, The Gods of the Lodge, author Reginald C. Haupt, Jr., described what he found during his trip to Mount Hermon:

"In the excavations of Baalbek, renamed Heliopolis by the Greeks, temples were uncovered honoring Baal and Bachus. The same is true of the site at Sidon. The Temple there is named the Temple of Baal of Sidon. But by far, of greater importance was the temple of Baal found on Mt. Hermon. Perhaps it would be more meaningful to you if I [Reginald Haupt] quote direct from my source. In the 1982 edition of the Thompson Chain Reference Bible (Fourth Improved Edition), the archaeological supplement was provided by G. Fredrick Owen, D.D., Ed.D. Dr. Owen wrote on page 376 of his supplement the following:

"Mount Hermon, the ‘chief' of the mountains of Palestine is five miles wide and twenty miles long. It has three peaks, the tallest of which is 9,166 feet above the Mediterranean Sea. For centuries before Abraham's time, the mountain had been venerated in connection with Baal.

"Baal worship was the leading religion of Canaan. On most of the high peaks of the country were shrines known as ‘high places,' the higher the holier. Here groves were planted and shrines erected for worship. Since Mount Hermon towered above all the other mountains in the region, it was the chief high place, the shrine of shrines. Canaanites looked to Mount Hermon much as the Moslems face Mecca when they pray. "During the summer of 1934, Dr. Stewart Crawford and this writer [Reginald Haupt] led a small expedition, in which we studied the ancient Baal shrines surrounding Mount Hermon.

We located many ruins and in each case the shrine was so oriented that when the priests and the devotees were at the altar, they faced the chief Baal sanctuary, or Quibla, located on the highest of the three peaks of Hermon. "We then ascended the mountain and found the ruined temple of Baal, constructed of Herodian masonry, which dated it to just previous to and during the early Christian era. In a low place near the northwest corner of the temple, we excavated and found loads of ash and burnt bone, which had been dumped there as a refuse from sacrifices" (Reginald C. Haupt, Jr., The Gods of the Lodge, p. 126).


Source

Anyhow I love this thread! This topic is always interesting.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:21 AM by Hanslune
So Sky

You are trying your own kind of deflection - back to Abydos - nice try but
I'll stick to Abydos- more fun don't you think?

Here is a full picture of the part of Abydos that Sky really, really doesn't want anyone to see or know about - it shows a bit more of the inscriptions -and shows very very clearly that they are part of a hieroglyphic commentary

Remember folks you're only suppose to see the part of the panels that Sky wants you to see - never never are you suppose to get the context of the panel. Sky is a great advocate of adversial vs actual truth.



What does it say Sky? Oh that's right you say it cannot be read yet it is? So why do the translations all stand up - I mean you can go on line to a dictionary and look them up yourself.....

What is the date of this inscription? I mean Sky you DO know that don't you?

Oh Sky thanks for the welcome. I'm overseas and don't have my regular links and had to go manually to ATS. I thought this thread was one from our regular Lost and forgotten Civilizations forum.....new horizons!

[edit on 4/12/08 by Hanslune]


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:23 AM by Skyfloating
reply to post by jjkenobi



A beautiful post. Im always excited to learn new things about the theory I havent read before.



reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:31 AM by warrenb
Ok I found the info on the middle-eastern translation's of the hieroglyphs

Introduction to New and True Hieroglyphs Part 1
Introduction to New and True Hieroglyphs Part 2
Hieroglyphic Roots Part 1
Hieroglyphic Roots Part 2

It explains, in brief, elements of Alsaadawi's theory of true Hieroglyphs, which are summarized as:

  • Egyptian language has not changed "orally" a bit since far pre dynastic times, that is, since more than 7000 years ago. Current Egyptians speak orally "exactly" the same as their Ancient Egyptian Grand's did.
  • Egyptian Names, Rituals, Customs, Celebrations and Aphorisms have not changed orally "a bit" for more than 7000 years and up to "Now"!
  • There are many fundamental mistakes made by Champollion when decoding Hieroglyphs, and which have been rectified in this theory.
  • Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphic language is not an alphabetic language as it is internationally known, but it is a kind of shorthand language based on compound phonetic roots, designed according to firm rules.
  • Motorizing letters, which are discovered by the author and plays a great role in decoding Hieroglyphs.
  • Phonetic corrections of wrongly sounded glyphs.
  • Conception correction of numerous of glyphs, which were wrongly translated.
  • Introduction of true translations of many glyphs that were not translated before.
  • Introducing symbols, to the first time, as an independent whole words or Hieroglyphic "expressions".

Source

Living close to Egypt they of course had knowledge of hieroglyph's way before any European had seen them. Not only that but they have records going back thousands of years, which allow real translations to be made.

Interesting stuff indeed.



[edit on 4-12-2008 by warrenb]


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:35 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Skyfloating

Wonderful posts...on the AAT...the evidence is incredibly overwhelming....when man lets go of his toxic arrogant ego that's when we will truly enter the cosmological family of man.



MicahVita


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:38 AM by Skyfloating
reply to post by Hanslune



Yes, it was translated by some Egyptologist as...

Ms. Katherine Griffis-Greenberg, from the University of Alabama at Birmingham (USA) has provided the following information: “In the photos, we clearly see "Who repulses the Nine Bows,"



Hilarious. Thats sure going to make me change my position on them


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:40 AM by Skyfloating
reply to post by warrenb



Very interesting. Its not far-fetched to assume that the people who actually lived in the area know more than those who came later. Time for me to read up.
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