Thanks for noticing that without our automakers we are going to be hurting, people don't realize just how many jobs that will be gone if they fall. I am the first generation in my family that hasn't worked for GM or Ford. Not to mention we are going to lose the few American made cars there are (even though the big three has veered from making them solely in America). It would be something else we would have to rely on from foreign countries. I don't know about you, but previously high oil prices and lead poisoning are enough to get me not wanting foreign goods.

Hey maybe it's the terrorists that have been murdering the worlds leading microbiologists... hmmm...no I don't think so.
You can bet your ass we are going to get hit with a biological weapon, but I think it's far more likely that this will come from inside the country not outside.

PEOPLE IM AS DREAMY AS YOU CAN ********* GET.

Please stop this inane Bullpoo of 2012 doomsday PLEASE! for the love of the sweet divine. It's about the ending of the mayan calander. Moving of our small galaxy within the Milky way. It's a time period that has been studied for millenias by the Mayan's. I'm not incredibly knoweledgable on what and why they seem to mark 2012 for this special cycle change within the cosmos. But it's not ARMAGEDDEN. Why are so many American's espeically still talking shiit.

People seriously its disgustng the amount of nonsense and ignorance inrelation to 2012.

There is no asteroid impact
There is no comet impact
There is no armagedden
There is no magnetic shapeshifting poles
There is no world scale earth quakes.
There is no blowing up osama bin ladens.


Will you all get real ffs.

We'll be standing in 'bread lines' probably within a few years, and by the time Aliens arrive there wont be much left to pick up. Except for the elites

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Will you all get real ffs.

The big 3 won't fail because the military needs them in case of war. We can't afford to be invaded and not have a production line ready--though we could snap up some of the Honda and Toyota plants I suppose.

I don't think the Mayans were predicting solely for the USA. It seems like every 10 years something "big" does happen to the US so I don't think a 2013 prediction is that shocking.

ETs...they run the show, when they're ready I'm sure they'll let us know. I don't think a depression will excite them since it didn't in the 30's. Nuclear War certainly might--but I would not count on them saving the day.

One nuke used in a war will scare the beejesus out of this planet--markets would crash. The rich would want an end to it, either by force or negotiations. A biological agent is what scares me.

Alternative industries such as HEMP would provide employment for every man woman and child in the nation, but only if implemented.

I have been waiting for sooooo long for someone to state the obvious, and this smart man above me finally did......I'm gonna have to caps lock this bad boy.......

WE CANNOT TRUST ARMAGEDDON PREDICTIONS FROM A CIVILIZATION THAT NO LONGER EXISTS. THIS IS COMMON SENSE. IF ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE WERE SMART AND PROPHETIC ENOUGH TO PREDICT THE APOCALYPSE THEN THEY CERTAINLY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PREDICT THEIR DOWNFALL.

HERE IS THE BASIC RULE REGARDING A CIVILIZATIONS CREDIBILITY:

Civilizations that still exist = Depending on the civilization a varying range from 1% to 100%

Civilizations that are exist = 0% credibility, none at all. They are not alive, that's all the proof you need that they didn't figure anything out.

Even if you point out the fact that other civilizations pointed out 2012, all those civilizations are extinct as well.

The Mayans (and others) are primitive, sun and star people, who paid too much attention to the only "deity" they had. The seasons might change a little in 2012, to a civilization still living in the Bronze Age while the rest of the world was celebrating the Age of Enlightenment, the seasons changing a bit might ruin their entire batch of crops, meaning they'd all die, since they are not civilized enough, meaning it would be their apocalypse.

The main point I'm trying to make: Don't trust extinct civilizations. It's just common sense.

We must Prepare to face the coming storm that will be 2012 . THEY ARE COMING and we must be ready .

Turn on all television channels and internets , there is warnings everywhere, it is obvious to all except the skeptics/disinfo agents who are posting here from facilities like GROOM LAKE

We must be ready , please heed my call and read the Mingloucho Chronicles

They have the knowledge, knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Don't tell me having the most fantastic technology that was recovered at Roswell, virtual free energy & the power to travel to the stars among other things wouldn't warp one's sense of importance. These people certainly pull the strings of the government knowingly or not and therefore control our fates.
Its time for a 'culling'- the whole system is stressed, too many people (cattle) that need to be controlled/fed/ and basically they are going to let us fall over the edge or give us a nudge if need be. They don't need money only that its needed in this 'system' but they have the power & energy to do what they want.
The Mayans calender could have gone on another 1000 years but it ends on a very particular cycle which has been proven to be correct. Im sure you will assert your superior intellect and proclaim there has never been any huge disasters in earths history, or no empires that have fallen..IMPOSSIBLE! right? Maybe your the one who should read your history books, its not out of the realm of possability on any front. Except now we have definitely had a 2 way commication with ETs for what benefit I have no idea..but the game you speak of is playing out in real life and this 'reality' you love so much will probably end soon. I hope not. I'd be glad to have egg on my face and still be alive to grow old. But I dont think its gonna happen..

Addtionally I'd like to add, the 'secret' that is being kept about the ETs I fear is something far more profound than the fact that they merely exist, whatever it is thats been discovered about them or about our existence in the universe must be so startling, so mind numbingly astounding that they can never possibly release the information. I think most people would handle the information about Aliens quite well, and probably not care all that much. Its the skeptics who's heads would explode or be jumping off cliffs as they realize their self righteousness was in grave error and thus their Id's collapse under their own weight...

Originally posted by NavalFC


Oh by the way you mention MJ-12 as those who control us.
Funny, I am skeptical of the whole MJ-12 bit, but aong thos who support it they allege MJ-12 is a tp secret government UFO research group, not a group out fr world domination..how ever there is one place where Mj12 is presented like you say and that is the video game Deus Ex.

been playing?


no end times prophecy will happen in 2012. 2012 will come and go just like any other year and you and the other 2012 proponents will be left with egg on your faces.

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