reply to post by indifferent
I am so bored with these threads. So I am going to hit it from another viewpoint.
OP, answer me this question.
We observe as humans, the expression and actions of our consciousness in many a manner of manifestations. One of these is the ability to create
things, all types of things.
Like the beauty of music.
The curiosity of self reflection via ART.
The wisdom of, and tragedy of poetry.
All from us. Our consciousness. And done so for thousands of years.
Now look at the planet we live on. WOW. That this planet , amonst many other things, inspires the above creations and expressions of our
consciousness.
Now with that in mind. How is it stupid that we would reason that a far greater consciousness must exist to account for such mind boggling complexity
and beauty that is the universe. That a system of belief that helps people navigate the many mysteries of life would not eventuate to help people with
the many abstract matters that concern us, how is that stupid that that would be inspired by such a consciousness, a consciousness logically construed
from that which it created. Do you ignore Music and Art and Poetry as just being. Or do you divine some insight and belief from it, say about yourself
or the consciousness that expressed? Can you see my point.
Science describes specifics, the nature of matter, the matter of nature. The material. Religion helps many people with things that cannot be
specified, that are not absolute and are within a realm beyond the material. IMHO anyway.
Now, if you are going to dismiss a system of belief(and we are not only talking about christianity as most if not all cultures attribute the creation
of the universe to a higher consciousness or being) then offer something other than the criticism of it being stupid.
Offer a better system.
One that offers meaning.
One that offers hope.
One that gives a reason.
One that accounts for origins and creation.
One that inspires a vision of spiritual advancement void of the material.
One that lets us re-unite with the creator and those we love.
One that gives us a vision of unity and peace.
As this is amongst some of the reasons people believe. Are these stupid persuits. Is believing that we are something greater than our matter stupid? I
would argue that it is natural for us to be like this. Anthropoloically speaking, history shows this behaviour present in all civilizations.
Even though detractors can scream that its a scam, control, and brainwashing, caused wars, blah blah. These same detractor are yet to offer anything
other than nihilistic, deterministic post modern nothingness. Now how stupid is that. I mean as a means to dispel religion as mythological mumbo jumbo
and stupid, they are offering literally nothing.
And you really think people are stupid enough to take nothing?
Religion gives people something. Get over it!
BTW the paradox you use to show gods all knowing(omniscience) is known as Predestination Paradox. I suggest you investigate this paradox further by
looking at the Encyclopedia of Philosophy or just googling Predestination Paradox.
People often think that offering an unaswerable paradox is some how an answer to GOD. It is not. It is cheating the arguement by posing an
impossibility. Your proposition makes assumptions. If you wish for me to point these out, let me know.
