Cal Study: Poor Kids Lack Brain Development, page 4
Pages: <<  1    2    3    4  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 9 times


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 08:32 PM by Rollinster
reply to post by eradown



You and me both...you and me both.

You are so right that it's retroactive to say...10 years ago....now. (Very generous number)


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:02 AM by WyrdeOne
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


Many people have said that the sample group is too small to draw any meaningful conclusions, and that's true but, really, isn't this study confirming what we all see every day of our lives? More to the point, isn't this study just giving lip service to a conclusion one could have reached by looking at the findings of a bunch of other studies on the factors influencing brain development?

There are bucket-loads of developmental studies that suggest/prove that nutrition and music and art and parental involvement all contribute measurably to brain development. At the same time there are even more sociological studies that show these factors are lacking, or completely absent in poor families.

The methodology of this study, to me, doesn't even necessitate a second glance, simply because the conclusion at which it arrives can be surmised by simple deductive logic, given that variables like the effect of nutrition and education on brain development are well understood.

If you look at the myriad other disparate studies relating to infant brain development and socioeconomic disparities, both nutritional and educational, you will come to the exact same conclusion as this study - poor kids are likely to have brains that are less well-developed than their wealthy counterparts. The sample group of this one study could be 26 million, the conclusion will be the same.

Of course I'm speaking about America here, if you studied the difference in a more agricultural setting, or a more primitive one, the differences would likely still be observable, but much less pronounced. That's my feeling anyway...

I read an interesting study the other day about paternity - turns out that poor fathers are between 10-30% more likely to unkowingly raise another man's child. The reason being (in my opinion) that women attached to poor men are more likely to surreptitiously seek the genetic material of another man whom they perceive as being better off.

Ever since the dawn of human civilization there has been a correlation between wealth/social status and health, intelligence and opportunity, right?

I appreciate the desire to give poor folks a fair shake, but going overboard with that produces the worst kind of (Politically Correct) willful ignorance. In order to avoid the appearance of bias we are forced to ignore facts?

All this "We are all equal and beautiful and wonderful" crap flies in the face of observable fact. It's well intentioned but it's making the problem harder to solve, because we can't own up to the differences fostered by our culture and our current environment. Should I even mention that most of the PC campus liberals spouting this stuff off are, themselves, generally better off economically? Unconscious bias indeed...

"Maybe if we ignore the problem long enough I'll make it to my death bed without ever having to acknowledge my role in it!"




As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.




reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 11:57 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by baseball101



I think it has to do more with the social interaction they receive at a very young age --- kids stuck in crowded daycare at an early age usually suffer from neglect -- in addition to many of the poor receive WICC and getting free infant poison (oops, sorry, meant infant formula), in addition to drinking fluoridated water. Get a little older, and they are ready for prescription drugs (poisons) to finish off the process.

There is a conspiracy afoot which is multifaceted, to dumb down the masses... It is evil, pure and simple, and is satan's plan to destroy God's temple (you & I).

www.watchmanreport.com


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 05:59 PM by I Love Funny Cars
I don't know if you would consider my childhood a poor childhood , I am 20 years old and my parents have allways had to be carefull with money . We have never been able to just buy things we want when we want we have had to save , we don't live in a flash neighbourhood , yeah I guess people with money would consider us poor . I will admit when I lived with my mum we were deffinitly poor for a while infact I had to read a book by torchlight one night because the power company cut the power so my mum had to borrow money to pay it .

But I have never had the mindset "Oh I am low working class I wont amount to anything" , sure I dropped out of high school but not because im dumb only because I was bored with it . I have gone to libraries and museums and read books on science and highly advanced things since I was in kindergartin , I love to learn about things I am interested in and have learnt a great deal on my own .

I have noticed one thing though and thats most poor kids here in new zealand use the whole "I am poor I need special treatment" as an excuse where most of them just can't be bothered learning or applying themselves . When I was in my first year of school when I was 5 I wouldnt read the books they gave me because I didn't like them they were kiddy books so they chucked me in a learn to read class , I had no trouble reading I was going to the school library checking out heaps of big books on science and dinosaurs and robots and stuff like that .


reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 05:00 AM by Malfeitor
To assume that those raised within financially-troubled households are inferior is to make one's-self inferior.
I remember living on canned soup and peanut-butter as a small child, I remember wearing clothes covered in patches with torn sleeves, and I remember, just within the last week, having to decide which bill to pay and which utility to allow to be terminated.
In the end, it comes to a matter of will-power. Those like Einstein worked hard to get where they ended up, and didn't allow the statistics to rule their lives. There are many who simply accept their walks in life; most people look around and see only where they can go within walking distance. For most people, its enough just to know that they'll be under a roof with a scrap of food on the table. A part of this is because they've been conditioned to think that what they have is as good as it gets. The other part falls into ignorance. If one doesn't percieve one's self to be under-achieving, one cannot strive to become greater. The simple word for this is complacency. A large percent of the population today accepts the choices immediately set before them simply because they aren't aware of any other choices. If you were the grandson of a third-generation factory-worker, and nobody in your family had ever left the town in which you lived, how would you percieve your choices in life? Its a matter of social conditioning which is inevitable in any functioning society. Economic stability results in social stagnation, which ultimately leads to apathy, which leads to discontent and, at the end of the road, revolution.
I may not know what its like to drive a new car, or to live in a new house, but I know who I am. What I don't know is what I am capable of, and only because I never accepted any limitation. I am the son of a construction worker, and my family is filled with what even I term as the dregs of society; there is not one member of my family who has achieved anything greater than retirement. Yet here I am in college, studying to become a psychologist and a writer; have my roots handicapped me?
There are limits placed on everyone. All men and women are born equal, in equally unfair situations; one person is born rich, the other born poor. We are all forced, in our own ways, into patterns of life which we must, for a time, endure. But its the choices we make and the limitations we accept or deny which determine our paths in life.
Pages: <<  1    2    3    4  >>    ^^TOP^^