Formal education levels of ATS readers and posters, page 4
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reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:01 AM by SpinDropSmile
OK I'll play this game.....

Finished high school - very good grades excepted to all universities I applied too. Met a girl went to college instead (I'm Canadian) went to 3 classes in three years got banned from college for 3-5 years... long story! Worked a full time job from age of 17 and on (two when I was supposed to be in school) worked my butt off for a major Canadian retailer and worked my way to the head office. Now making more money than friends with degrees (money isn't everything my wife, home and life is much more important). NEVER once gave up hope on my future (others did parents, friends etc.) Not trying to brag or say I'm better but that there is hope for a good life and future without formal education. (Although I would be much further along in my career if I had it and if you can get IT make it easy on your self and do it) After all my debt and money troubles I could not go back to school so I took courses in things I could manage and enjoy.

- one year AutoCAD course - 2 week crash course (now design retail stores)
- Life guarding courses - NLS, instructors, Beach and water front, CPR, First Aid many others.
- Nation coaching certificate in baseball and hockey
- Certified fork lift driver, and lift truck operator
- Propane handling license
- Many others...

Although only one of these things actually applies to what I do they help when an employer wants to see what you have done with your life. My ability to talk to people and keep myself neutral has always been my best asset and in this world of I pods, game systems and computer realities these skills are very valuable if your willing to work hard for them.

Good luck to everyone and congrats to everyone who worked hard and got your degree's it is hard work and I don't want to belittle what you have accomplished in your life.



reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:22 AM by nixie_nox
reply to post by jam321



I have always said that I have met dumb doctors and smart garbagemen.
I think it is a crime for everyone to require a degree, because in my office, it seems to have no influence on capabilities whatsover.
I could do everyone's job here but because I have not finished my degree, I will always be low man on the totem pole.


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:41 AM by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by nixie_nox



Degrees will never trump experience in the real world. However, the real world has been beat to death by various unions and associations and miscellaneous self-serving 'professional' institutions that only exists to push forward this mythical value that degrees have.

The American Library Association states I'm nothing but a tech unless I go forth, drop two years salary and get my Masters. Jokes on them because I have been hired as a professional. I was hired for my experience. I have a friend who went straight through to his Masters and nobody will hire him for anything other than page work because he has no experience. Of course, he has obscene student loans to pay back and cant afford to take a low paying page job but he also cant afford to be unemployed much longer.

I still get 'professional' peers that look down their nose at me for not getting a Masters.

It's all crap and college is a bigger scam than the federal reserve. Big U does more damage to peoples lives than Big Oil or Big Pharma could ever do.
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