Obama Birth Certificate Rears Its Head - Again, page 13
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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:56 AM by Ktmac
reply to post by DJMessiah



Because we are governed by the Constitution. And that is how the Constitution reads. We don't change it for him or anyone else.
It is a document that is what is suppose to keep us honest and fair.
But at this point, Mr. Obama has "walked away" from what could have been a "none issue" had he just produce the documents.
He, himself is completely responsible for this.
For a man that claims he wants to bring the people together he is starting by separating them on an issue regarding him and who he really is.
If he wants to hold the highest job - running our nation, then he must be an example.
Playing dodge ball is not how you start your first day on the job.
His "people" are asking him a question and he only wants to answer the easy ones.
This makes him look like he is hiding something.
This is how trust is destroyed, and that my friend breeds like feral cats.
We just want to know.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:57 AM by Tinkabit
reply to post by Kailassa


The first line is an ironic confimation of what I have been telling you:

"Despite the lack of media coverage and the derision of President-elect Barack Obama's supporters, a newspaper ad signaled that the controversy surrounding Mr. Obama's citizenship is not going away."


www.thebulletin.us...


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:02 PM by Kailassa
Originally posted by Tinkabit
reply to
post by Kailassa



You are on an internet site that is in the business of looking at alternate news that does not come from the MSM. The general idea is that the MSM only reports what the owners of the Media wants you to be aware of.

You are asking me to prove the truth with misleading MSM news sources.

I find you statements ironic. I could have used the harsher term, hypocritical, but I did not feel it would establish a proper tone.


Project much?

I'm still waiting to see some justification for this rumour other than repetitions of the same rumour.

If Obama had been born in Kenya there would be evidence to show the fact, not just MSM stories.

As every other "factoid" underpinning this meme you are helping push to the public has been proven wrong, I thought you might make an effort with this one at least.



reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:50 PM by Tinkabit
reply to post by redhatty



Gee, isn't it simply SHOCKING how the MSM REPEATEDLY is getting the stories it IS reporting on this subject, WRONG???

naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com... lated_content/

"KANSAS CITY STAR - JUST LIKE MSNBC - GETS THE DONOFRIO SCOTUS STORY WRONG, VERY WRONG"

If one were a critical thinker, one might be suspious.....


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:58 PM by maybereal11
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Mikey84
He HAS shown it. Case closed.

No he hasn't. Case NOT closed.

Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the childs birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The parents would be issued a Certification of Live Birth. It only proves that the parents claimed Hawaii as their main place of residence for the prior year. This is not proof of where the child was born.
....
Case definately NOT closed.


Riddle me this FlyersFan...Wouldn't the natural question asked by either you or the horde of far right wing blogs that posted this case for Statute 338-17.8 be...When was it enacted???

I'll give you a hint...see the ACTUAL Statute and look at the enactment date! It follows the "L. (Enacted into Law)" in the statute

www.capitol.hawaii.gov...

1982! This statute wasn't even on the books until 19 years after he was born! It would not have had any bearing on his birth.

Not to mention his COB clearly states that he was born August 1st, 1961 at 7:24pm in the City of Honolulu, in Honolulu County on Ohau island in Hawaii!!

The question of when this statute was enacted is so obvious a question that I can't fathom it wasn't considered prior to this latest far right wing blog campaign and as I read through various responses on the right wing blogs...people pointed out that it was enacted in 1982...and yet the hatefest continued as if their posts didn't exist.

Agenda over facts. Why would our President elect waste his time engaging in honest dialouge with folks who have proven themselves REPEATEDLY and CONSISTENLY to not care about the truth what-so-ever....

He has shown his COB complete with the registrar's seal and signature...the most valid proof of citizenship any Hawaiin can obtain. If I was Obama I wouldn't offer these lieing lunatics the gum off the bottom of my shoe.

By the way Flyerfan- Some posters are simply uneducated on this issue, but I have posted in enough threads with you over this past campaign cycle to know that you do thorough although biased research. But so often, like here in this statute garbage, you trade honesty to serve some deeper dislike of Obama. Your honor isn't worth whatever feelings are driving you to post this dishonest garbage.

[edit on 4-12-2008 by maybereal11]

[edit on 4-12-2008 by maybereal11]
Edit to correct who I was addressing...to many posts to respond to

[edit on 4-12-2008 by maybereal11]


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 01:05 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by redhatty
Donofrio calls them out on errors in their reporting


And the people here had better read that one REAL carefully... Donofrio is not challenging Obama's birthplace. He's charging that even though Obama was born in Hawaii, he's STILL not a natural-born citizen! And he's using a Supreme Court ruling from 1875 or something.

It's being discussed starting here.

All of you who think the Supreme court is going to demand Obama's birth certificate should read it because you're going to be REALLY upset when the SC doesn't so much as ASK for his BC...



reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 01:16 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by maybereal11
I'll give you a hint...see the ACTUAL Statute and look at the enactment date! It follows the "L. (Enacted into Law)" in the statute

www.capitol.hawaii.gov...

1982! This statute wasn't even on the books until 19 years after he was born! It would not have had any bearing on his birth.


BRAVO! For searching further and finding the truth! I wish I could Applaud you!

FF, do you have a comment on the fact that Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 wasn't enacted when Obama was born?


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 01:51 PM by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by maybereal11


While I'm curious about Obama's Birth Certificate and the real story behind it, I've got to agree with you. I'd like to see what would transpire with this case, but it has no merit, since it's dependent on the meaning of "natural-born citizen" and for many years, we've taken that to mean born on US soil. There are exclusions, but having a father being a Kenyan citizen isn't one of them.
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