Well, okay. At least that means we'll have progress again in communications. The Net was a great invention and we all love it, but it seems that it's time for something better now. Let's leave them to it and get on to the next level.

Thanks to all for posting.
Yes there will still be a paid internet service. On that there still may be all the smut and deviant vulgarity that the government likes collecting high taxes on. It is just the filtering that does worry me some. China has proven that data mining and filtering can limit the masses to only what the government wants you to see in a very effective manor. I don't want to see that happen to the rest of the world.

I understand your concern and it certainly is valid. Right now I just think that there is too much money to be lost by cutting out the porn industry. Porn wouldn't be the only part affected. Porn sites are a boon for anti-virus companies, hardware manufacturers...etc.

I also think that it is so easy to track what people do online these days that the govt would lose a lot of info on the slaves, I mean consumers, or people... by restricting what they can look at.

If anything, the only changes I expect to come will be ways to milk more money out of people for bandwidth / access / etc.

Our stupid government in Australia is determined to introduce compulsary censorship for all, so a lot of studies have been done here. it's been found that most censorship cuts out reputable sites and still leaves kiddy porn accessible.
A system which would accurately filter child porn slowed the internet by 80%.

But the slowness is not the worst of it.

Any government wanting to charge for some services is just looking for a way to pad their pockets by selling the system to their buddies.

Any government wanting to filter porn is just looking for a way to completely control everything the population sees, filtering out all anti government content.

This is not about the internet.
This is about installing a dictatorship.

And yet, how much of the internet would exist without pornography? I don't mean in terms of content, but just innovations and the mechanics on the http platform. I'd bet that one of the first web-based galleries involved naked women. The same goes for online payment transactions, image compression, encryption and so on.

It seems the world wide web is the 'house that porn built' but now governments and Big Business want to step and in and say 'thanks for that, but I'll have the keys now'.

Well said everyone, but it's quite simple.

They are in control and they want money. The only bane they have is free information, so they are going to do everything they can to free themselves of this bumble bee at their picnic, and they'll get us to pay for it in the end, just like everything else they've done to us.

Whether they're still working on the details, or whether it's already set in motion, it is happening whether we like it or not.

China was the test run for this techno-dictatorial software (where would you imagine the software will come from), and it certainly will be applied to it's fullest extent here (at our expense of course) if they have their way.

I seem to remember at least a few bills trying and failing having been introduced too soon by naive jump the gunners in the house and senate, but don't let em fool ya. They were also tests of just how many people would pay attention to them.

The internet is our only Bastian of hope for adults and children alike. If it goes (and it's well on it's way), our true leashes won't be far behind...and most of us will welcome them with open arms. Isn't democracy great?

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Originally posted by lagnar
The internet is our only Bastian of hope for adults and children alike. If it goes (and it's well on it's way), our true leashes won't be far behind...and most of us will welcome them with open arms. Isn't democracy great?

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This would be a great "alternative" to the current internet, providing a smut free, family friendly internet.

I wonder, would sites like ATS be filtered out in this new free wireless internet???

Dang, beat me to it by 6 hours. (I just read the article on fox). My initial thought was "well, whats the point then?", followed swifty by, "Looks like we have to pay for it after all!"

Can you picture the hordes of red-faced males and females forced to line-up for private internet solutions?

Kevin Martin, you and you're colleagues may read our emails, tap our phones and chip our children. But you will never deny us our humanity!

lol... an internet service that doesn't allow connection to porn?

It will be dead in a month.


Not to mention the word "free" when it comes to the internet means "as slow as 18.8 baud dial-up, routed to over 100 people"



Remember... it's not a big truck.

While I understand the basic premise, these ideas never work because there has never been nor will there ever be a consensus of what is pornographic and what is best for Children. Add to that the problem that filters work about as well as the space weapon defense system and what customers will get it one giant money sink of a mess that leads everyone back to the one and only Internet.

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Im not saying this is a stellar idea, but i just think its funny that when big bro wants to give us something, there is usually a big stink. boo hoo, they want to give us HD-TV! i am against buying bottled water, because i get it for free from the tap. If there was a free-reliable internet option to me i would have taken it. however, i value my porn enough to keep paying for my high speed.

If you give a mouse a cookie, he will probably ask for a glass of milk, and so on and so on.

I look forward to the day when people STOP being LAZY and START getting things for themselves WITHOUT begging uncle sam to intervene, and then sit there wondering where the heck all their liberties went...

It's strange. I am torn on how to feel about this. On one hand you have Orwellian allusions, and on the other, you have the pure flow of intellect, discussion, and content.

Not sure what to think.

It could actually push a new tech if happens.

For better or worse - porn is one of the key tech adopters and drivers in the world. From VHS to DVD's and the net..porn played a large part in driving the tech and making popular.



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with p2p networking *considering that the service allows that - you can't get rid of porn. maybe all of those smut pay sites, but everyone knows about torrent downloading illegal movies, even adult ones. someone will just find the loop hole like they always do, and just give up and ban another service.

I see in this move another prelude of what's ultimately on the table.. they are now getting the frog up to medium rare, by the time we're crispy, freedom of speech will be a nostalgic memory.

They're now setting up the basis but I doubt they will call off the hounds after a bridgehead has been secured. The PTB will claim that national borders are a 'concern' in this most noble of crusades, against a topic mostly anybody could only applaud, right?