I'm talking about politicians here in the USA. I think that US politicians should have never given the right to print money away to some foreign or private banks. They should have kept it and created a better resolution to the problem where they could still retain the right to print money and a fiat system. I don't see why politicians lack common sense. I don't see this as a New World Order plot. I just view this as politicians here didn't know any better and they made a huge mistake.

I believe there is a virus that infects the brains of politcians once they are elected. It dystroys all common sense, and spurs the tax and spend center of the brain. It also does not engage the brain before engaging the mouth.

Well you do know the shady circumstances that it happened under?

And you can't just blame the politicians. We elect them. How many people had any clue about the fed until recently? I certainly had no clue about it until a few years ago.

The blame goes on the people. You will get the government you deserve, not the government you want. The people allowed it to happen, don't bother themselves with understanding it, and so they get what they deserve. If you are unwilling to take on the personal responsibilities that come with freedom and things, then you will not get them.

Don't play the victim and blame everyone else for your problems. Realize we all allowed it because we did not raise our heads and pay attention, and still we don't.

For example, do you think that putting the money into the hands of government will solve our problems? It won't. It would help, no doubt about it. But if the government feels it can spend unlimited amounts of money, then the problem of inflation is going to continue. And the people demand that the government spend all this money because the people don't seem to realize it's their money.

Do you support universal healthcare? Do you support the dept of education? Do you support any number of the social programs? Or on the other side of the isle, do you support spending money on bases all over the world? Do you support wars on a regular basis? Do you support social crimes and money to go after them?

If you answer yes to these questions, then you've gotten what you've asked for. You gave away your own personal responsibilities and now we will deal with the consequences. And if people don't wake up, then we will continue to degrade even further.

I don't think they lack common sence, they would just rather listen to all of the people that tells them "Hey we can make you a whole lot of money if you listen to us.". Most people want more money, and when you have others saying that if you do this or that, than we can make sure to line your pockets.

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
Whoever said I supported them? I only support Obama and I pity him because the NWO and the global elite will end up trying to use his persona to advance their agenda. I don't support those other people because most of them are clowns that won't be honest with themselves. A lot of these things go on behind our backs without us knowing about them. It isn't our fault. You can't fault the people. We voted them into office but we aren't at fault for what they did. Do you think we are their constituents? Who do you think they are really working for?

I hate to break it to you, but Obama is one of them. He has no plans at all to change the actual directions of things. I wish and hope he does work out to be a good president who undo's alot of the problems being caused, but I have never seen anything that suggest that.

His campaign of change is nothing new. Every new politician is pretty much elected on change or reform. Clinton ran on the change platform for example, and started many of the things the patriot act has, but illegally at the time. One of the things that pointed out the hypocrisy of the republicans was when they were all upset Clinton did it, but then did it themselves when in office.

Democrats and republicans. 2 teams of the same game. I can not express that enough, the same game. It doesn't really matter which side you are for, as long as you keep up with and support the game. Yankees vs Mets, doesn't matter which team you like, they are still playing the same game of baseball.

I was more talking about the population as a whole supporting them rather than individuals. I didn't support them either, but most people did and still do.

Obama is the savior to you that GWB was supposed to be for the republicans. There will come some crisis that "changes everything" and Obama will keep on toting the NWO line just like every other president for the past 100 years.

Many a good man has gone to Washington, and in no time at all was as crooked as a dog's hind leg.

They get that taste of power and want it again and again. So instead of taking care of business and doing what's right for the country, they are totally concerned with reelection and raising funds.

It's easier to stuff an earthworm up a wildcat's dusty anus than to get a straight answer from a politician.

You tell enough lies with conviction, and after a while, you can't recognize the truth.

Common sense? Not very common in Washington.

We've got a comedy at play in the UK house of Commons. The Police have searched a Member of Parliaments offices without a search warrant. Speaker's excuse, they didn't realise. Most people, let alone criminals, know you demand to see the warrant. Our Members of Parliament who make this legislation as well as legislation for criminals generally, did not realise. I rest your cases for you. They have no clue, I hope your clowns in the US are slightly better....

It is untrue they lack common sense.

The problem is...they never USE it.



Cheers!!!!

Originally posted by RFBurns
It is untrue they lack common sense.

The problem is...they never USE it.

Their 'interests' make sure they never WANT to use it........

Originally posted by redled
We've got a comedy at play in the UK house of Commons. The Police have searched a Member of Parliaments offices without a search warrant. Speaker's excuse, they didn't realise. Most people, let alone criminals, know you demand to see the warrant. Our Members of Parliament who make this legislation as well as legislation for criminals generally, did not realise. I rest your cases for you. They have no clue, I hope your clowns in the US are slightly better....

I think this is more a reflection on them thinking they have the power to do anything they want, more than lacking common sense. They know they are lying to the people, they know why that lobbyist is dining them etc.

The entire game is simply for those in charge to gain and get as much power over the people as allowed. And they keep chipping in over time. If they put in the laws of today 50 years ago, they would have rioted. But over time with gradual pressure people accept things. It's just this 1 little thing, then this 1 little thing, then this 1 little thing.

It is pure coincidence that each party takes only half of the good stuff that made America great, and half of the bad stuff? I think not. Each side runs on the promise of the "good stuff", but then only does the bad stuff when in office, and the other sides programs never disappears.

Is Obama going to dismantle homeland security? No, he wants to expand it. He voted for the Patriot Act and so on.

Why is it impossible to get a government where you have both economic and social liberties? Why are the people who talk about that like Ron Paul treated so harshly by the media? ETC.

Combine the government the democrats want with the government the republican wants, and you have a complete communist society, or more appropriately national(republicans) socialists(democrats) - by plan.

If Obama gets in office and starts undoing the crap GWB did, then that would be great. But I have a feeling he is just going to keep on building it up, but now on the side of losing our economic freedoms, brought on by the collapse of the economy. I hope I am wrong.