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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 07:42 PM by MilitaryMan
reply to post by zetamafia911



I just don't see why we need to reach for a paranormal or alien abduction explanation when it can be explained away by simple, more mundane science.


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 02:04 AM by HugmyRek
reply to post by MilitaryMan


Originally posted by MilitaryMan
reply to post by zetamafia911



I just don't see why we need to reach for a paranormal or alien abduction explanation when it can be explained away by simple, more mundane science.


Such as, you were caught up in the tractor beam of a cigar shaped aereal craft with it's side hatch open, shining white light from it's interior, or something? Sounds pretty mundane.

What do you do for work or study? Maybe that has something to do with it. Maybe the government has an interest in you for top secret affairs. Shrug. I don't know. Sounds like a weird experience though. What do you guess at concerning the marks?

On the one hand, they are a triangle. Could it be a trilateral commission (whatever that is) calling card, or, a health/vital test-spacing 3 samples with one 'device'/instrument. Do you remember any people or thoughts of people or images?

What do you think, it happened to you, your guesses would 'likely' hit closer to the truth. Have you had any aphiphanys (sp) in the aftermath; things knawing at your concience, more memories?

Take care,
HugmyRek.


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 08:55 AM by mystiq
Originally posted by MilitaryMan
reply to
post by zetamafia911



I just don't see why we need to reach for a paranormal or alien abduction explanation when it can be explained away by simple, more mundane science.


You don't have. But attempting to "explain it away" with something else, or searching for the truth no matter what, and pinpointing exactly what that is in a situation is another matter. Lots of things can be "explained away". Considering so many experience similar events, some in entire families, its a gallant search for the truth to uncover every stone. The "abduction event" and the triangle marks afterward's remind me of the book "Communion" by Whitley Strieber, you can even listen to some of his work on youtube. So similar.


reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 01:36 PM by TheSkepticSway
reply to post by ArcAngel



dude agreed we do get alot of people on here who claim to be new and have "experiances", but we as a whole on this website isnt it our aim to listen to what people have to say before we make our judgement and just dismiss it, afterall skeptic or not everyone should be givin a chance, just because people dont have pictures or anything like that to back them up doesnt mean it never happend.

i myself have had experiances that i cannot provide photographic evidence of but only post my stories for other people to make their mind up about without just being pushed to one side and ignored.

however i do agree with you in a instance their is alot of "fakers" or "hoaxers" who do say one thing and disapear so the 5 questions u speak of may be handy its happend so many times here on ATS and it is somethin in my opinion that needs to be looked into.

keeping the faith

TheSkepticSway


reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 09:33 PM by MilitaryMan
reply to post by mystiq



The thing is, the only similar event in this instance that other people have had is a UFO with lights. Even if I saw some type of "grey" beings it could still easily be a dream. We have main stream media to thank for that.
The marks were interesting. But there are still too many variables other than the alien abduction scenario to point blame at. One being sleeping with my dog the night before this experience, that could have caused this. These were not blood pouring out marks or anything.

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reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 10:36 PM by MilitaryMan
reply to post by aleon1018



This infection would cause me to have dreams about UFO's?
I'm curious because I have been having what might be kidney problems.

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reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 11:30 PM by aleon1018
reply to post by MilitaryMan



I would think you would have checked that by now. One site also mentioend kidney stones and or a kidney infection. Yeah, you never can be sure about those aliens and their STDs.

I had a serious infection several years ago with my kidneys. I don't know what it was,(STD?) but I ended up on Cipro which I hade a severe reaction to.

The doctor said that was all I could take? Yeah, when I took it, that's when I saw the shadowy figures of the reptillian like beings who sprinkled some small black particles over me.

The dog tried to bite them and the one just kept throwing her across the room until I told her to stop. After they left she didn't want to come near those black particles.

My sister complained about it being all over the chair and the floor the next day and said she was tired of vacuuming those up. They sorta looked like poppy seeds or some type of similar seed. I also recall having those around my bed in my room, but didn't remember why.

The weird thing was if you picked it up with your hand, it would pop like those carbonated pop rocks? candy they used to sell years ago.

The last time I recall what I thought was a UFO was at some gas station several years ago. I heard the humming sound and my hair was sticking up like it did when I was a kid at some farm in Wisconsin. Here's a strikingly similar acount in the same exact area:

www.ufowisconsin.com...

The lights dimmed and the pumps lights were all weird and flickering different shapes. One woman in the gas station was freaking out also.

There was a few cops there and I think one of them shot himself in the leg accidently. I never heard anything else about it though as if it never even happened. Maybe it didn't?


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 11:46 PM by mystiq
reply to post by MilitaryMan





These are very good. He didn't have blood pouring from the triangle shaped marks either. Its often the exception rather than the norm if there are witnesses to the craft during an abduction, though I have heard this a few times.
They're able to pull people in downtown apartments and hotel rooms. Jim Sparks tried hiding out but no luck in deterring them.


reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 12:04 AM by Solo954
Originally posted by HugmyRek
reply to
post by ArcAngel



Originally posted by ArcAngel


I harbor no grudges but instead deny ignorance and question everything.


Could you back that up with some proof, please? Thanks!


You dont understand you own statement. Most abductions are reported during REM sleep. Thats why he says he harbors no gurdges he denies what he is seeing because he doesn't comprehend and WANTS to find out. So he questions.

Cameras and evidence have nothing to do with his personal experience. Denying ignorance would be to listen with an open mind. Not take pictures so I can believe you.

Edit to add:

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reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 12:34 AM by MilitaryMan
reply to post by mystiq



Will watch/listen. I also have some responses for you Solo. I'll write back in a second.



reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 12:40 AM by MilitaryMan
reply to post by Solo954



Nothing I can think of that would simulate a UFO or alien abduction. I don't play video games (though the new ghost busters game may be good), I don't watch sci-fi movies, and I don't think I had been on ATS around that time. I do recall thinking of a UFO experience I had around that time though. It's not really uncommon though because I usually think about it once a day.

And yes ArcAngel that one is a claim! I have had a UFO encounter. I'd never say it was alien though. Just something that happened when I was on a vacation around 11 years ago.

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reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 01:04 AM by MilitaryMan
reply to post by mystiq



It's interesting in this video that the person mentions waking suddenly. I had wakened suddenly the night I saw my UFO on vacation. I had this strong compelling feeling to go to the window. I did, and that's when I saw it.

I know that the UFO experience I had 11 years ago was real. I investigated the matter further. I just can't conclude that a dream or vision was actually a real abduction. I can't conclude that at all.

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reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 04:01 PM by dangleb3rry
Originally posted by ArcAngel
reply to
post by MilitaryMan



Great.

Another "new" member with a Profound experience. Of course, no pictures of the marks, no witness... just .. believe me ... I was there.

Mods.. when a person signs up.. have them take a test of the TOC ... simple 5 question test to see if they read them before posting...

Guaranteed .. this poster will be gone in 2 weeks... w/ a new log on and story.

Sheesh ... why oh why i give donations here.





Instead of bitching about peoples threads why dont you go on another topic forum. Why do these people even come here when they are just raped by people like yourself and that idiot navalFC.

Even if the OP is not true the reply's by some of the other guy's may help some1 who realy needs it........ Seems this forum is full of people mocking people for their beliefs. And u donate money to it?


reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 09:29 PM by MilitaryMan
reply to post by dangleb3rry



I'm not that concerned by it anymore. NavalFC and I get along fine. I actually consider myself one of the more reserved members, having only seen a UFO once, and being able to see auras, which may in fact be an eye problem. The problem is is that ArcAngel comes into my threads and starts accusing me of things I have never done. That's where the problem lies. He trolls my threads. I really don't know what's so ludicrous about seeing a UFO 11 years ago (which other people saw) and being able to see the heat emanating from my hands, when it has been proven the hands emit light.

I guess I should just be shipped off to a psychiactric ward and be put in a straight jacket. God forbid I saw a UFO when I was 11 with people in my immediate family, all of which do not have any mental illness.

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