WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD HERE, IS THE TEMPERATURE AT WICH STEEL MELTS. AND AT WHAT JET FUEL MIXED WITH OXYGEN BURNS AT. NOWHERE NEAR EACH OTHER. AND 3 BUILDINGS DONT FALL STRAIGHT DOWN. WITHIN A FEW HOURS. JUST DONT HAPPEN. STACK UP ANYTHING, AND TAKE THE CORNER OUT. IT FALLS TO THE SIDE. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. ARGUE BOUT WHAT YOU WANT, THESE FACTS DONT ADD UP.

[edit on 17-12-2008 by guinnessford]

sorry. caps lock was on! im only here to learn what i dont know or understand. im not here to argue, or anger anyone. so, please, if i say anything, wait a second. im irish, so usually words come out with good intentions and are misunderstood. ive read a bit more, and as there are good arguments fot the pancake theory, it still dont add up. they both hit corners of the building. only using laws of common sense, and being a mechanic and a welder, i know what steel does. ive taken plenty of courses. im not an expert, so dont ask for credentials. i am an expert in common sense, though. and when you saw them fall, what was the initial reaction? no way. it dont happen like that.

[edit on 17-12-2008 by guinnessford]

wich is why we must take it all in, and remit what doesnt make logical sense. whatever may be logical to you may not be logical to me or someone else. but that is why this is a fr.. nevermind.

I completely agree with you.

No one has all the answers. Its all pieces of one very convoluted puzzle...

I think the role that I play (and the role we all play, no matter what side/idea/manner we apply it) is to ADD just one little bit...

I think each and every one of us should look at each and every piece of this puzzle that we possibly can, and share it with like-minded souls.

There ARE discrepencies that we ALL should take another 'gander at.

We are truelly all like-minded btw. some of us are just seeing different angles to the prism... (unless of course you are one of THOSE)

I would feel remise if i werent to point out some obvious flaws in this case...

F.D.N.Y. EMT DeCOSTA WRIGHT
:
Q. “Were you there when building 7 came down in the afternoon?”

A. “Yes.”

Q. “You were still there?”

A. “Yes, so basically they measured out how far the building was going to come, so we knew exactly where we could stand.”

Q. “So they just put you in a safe area, safe enough for when that building came down?”

A. “5 blocks. 5 blocks away. We still could see. Exactly right on point, the cloud stopped right there.”
(Verbatim from his interview in FDNY Oral Histories)

“During the last four decades, other towers in New York, Philadelphia and Los Angeles have remained standing through catastrophic blazes that burned out of control for hours because of malfunctioning or nonexistent sprinkler systems. But 7 World Trade Center, which was not struck by a plane, is the first skyscraper in modern times to collapse primarily as a result of a fire. Adding to the suspicion is the fact that in the rush to clean up the site, almost all of the steel remains of the tower were disposed of, leaving investigators in later years with little forensic evidence.”