Originally posted by drwizardphd
Where do you get off trying to force your moronic "child killer" facade on such a legitimate and beneficial practice?

Originally posted by NGC2736
I feel it would be hypocritical of people who want a "right to life" to single out abortion as evil, and yet support war.

But we humans are a odd bunch, at the best of times.

Would you tell your other two children? "Gather around kids... ok... times are tough. We need to murder your unborn sibling. You guys were the lucky ones and got to live. I'm real sorry you'll never know your brother or sister who didn't have the same chance. It's a good thing we had a better income when I got preggers with you or you would have ended up in the bottom of the vacuum cleaner bag too."[/quote}

I wouldn't tell my children because, quite frankly, it's absolutely none of their business. Period.

I'm guessing you won't tell the other two kids. Why should they know about something so embarrassing that you had to pick and choose who lived and who died. It's ok. It's your right.

I wouldn't be at all embarrassed. I take responsibility for my decisions. And yes, it is my right.

I made the selfish decision to talk my girlfriend in college into having an abortion.

I now have two adopted children. Two kids who were not aborted but given up. I see things differently now.

Good for you. You're not just a blowhard who wishes to impose his will on everyone else. I'm glad to see that you actually have put your money where your mouth is, so to speak.

Also, I was born in 1968. My mom was 18 and didn’t have a cent to her name. She told me that back alley abortions were too dangerous back then or she would have had one. She had no money… nothing. She was very specific that if she could have had an abortion safely, I would have been discarded like yesterdays trash too.

That's very sad, I'm sorry that happened to you. She should never have told you that.

But like I said, I talked my girlfriend into having an abortion. I didn’t want to have a family… I was in college worried about my own future.

So… I guess I’ll see you in hell!

Um, speak for yourself. I don't believe in hell, so I guess not.

Was that what you were expecting? Regret and guilt do come back to haunt you.

Yes, they can, but this is definitely not the case with everyone.

Edited to add:
I'm sorry to hear that you're too poor to afford condoms. The health department hands them out for free.

We're not. We use birth control religiously, but birth control has been known to fail.

Babies are expensive to have. I know the people in 3rd world countries pay a TON to have kids. But but but... we need to have it in a hospital... not at home... it might die at home without all the fancy hospital equipment. It might die at home.... wait.... problem solved. You could have it for free or it might die. Doesn't sound like you'ld be any worse off than killing it up front.
But formula is expensive. That's why god gave you milk makers.
Blah blah blah Always an excuse for murder.

Ok, now this whole paragraph just confused me. Maybe you can clarify what you were getting at?

I'm a murderer too so don't think I'm being a hypocrite.

Here again, speak for yourself. I'm not a murderer.

That could have been my daughter. But my child is no more and I'll never know what would have happened.

No, this is true, you'll never know. I'm very sorry that your so upset about something that happened so long ago, but maybe some therapy would be beneficial to you. You seem to have a lot of guilt and anger about your past.

My two kids were born to poor people who couldn't keep them. They live in luxury in my house. My wife couldn't have kids of her own (even though I can father them) due to endometreosis caused by her teenaged abortion.

I'm very sorry to hear about your wife. That is very unfortunate.

At least you are following up on your feelings that every single pregnancy must result in a baby being born, by caring for children who needed a home. Most people just blow a bunch of hot air, but don't back up their words with actions.

Can you see how Karma has got us? But I am raising two beautiful childeren born to people who didn't kill them but were too poor to raise them so gave them up.

Nope, sure don't. Don't believe in karma. But, if you ask me, it sounds like you're not doing to bad for yourself. You say you have a 6 figure income and are raising 2 beautiful children in a luxurious house. Sounds pretty great to me.

Once again, what's wrong with adoption?

Never said there was anything wrong with it. As i said before, we have no health insurance, so we'd be stuck footing the hospital bill, either way.

It's not black and white like you try to make it sound.

I'm going to make a suggestion for you. You seem to have much pent up guilt and anger regarding what happened all those years ago, so perhaps you could alleviate some of it by putting some of your large income towards building homes for unwanted children, or maybe benefiting people too poor to care for a child so that their families may stay together. Just a thought.


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