Planned Parenthood offers gift vouchers, page 1
Pages: <<  1    2    3    4  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 3 times
Topic started on 2-12-2008 @ 01:04 AM by wheresthetruth

Planned Parenthood offers gift vouchers


www.washingtontimes.com
Indiana residents in need of a quick stocking stuffer this holiday season have an unusual option: Planned Parenthood gift certificates.

The group's Hoosier State chapter on Wednesday began selling gift certificates redeemable at any of its 35 facilities for any service provided -- from basic health screenings to birth control to abortions.
(visit the link for the full news article)


Related News Links:
www.thebulletin.us


reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 01:06 AM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by wheresthetruth



People have their own opinions.

For some, people think that women want to kill their own children. For others like myself on the left believe it's a choice.

There is nothing perverse about it. Have you ever been a child-bearing person? You might want to read accounts from other people about their experiences with abortions before you dismiss it.



reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 11:28 AM by wheresthetruth
reply to post by Frankidealist35



Dont get me wrong, I do understand that there are circumstances where abortion is valid. I fully support a woman's choice to abort after, say, a rape or if it will harm or kill the mother. I just dont agree with a Christmas promotion that supports rampant abortion "just because".
Regardless of my religious beliefs, I do respect the original meaning of Christmas as it applies to the faith. As well, to me this is a season of growth, family, friends, and joy. That is why I find this "promotion" to be attrocious.


reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 11:50 AM by Finn1916
Originally posted by wheresthetruth
reply to
post by Frankidealist35


I do respect the original meaning of Christmas as it applies to the faith. As well, to me this is a season of growth, family, friends, and joy.


By original meaning of christmas, you mean perverting other faiths hollidays tosuit your own needs to convert? what does that have to do with anti abortion? Because if you want truth, as your name implies, then the truth is christ was not born on christmas.

[edit on 12/2/2008 by Finn1916]


reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 12:05 PM by bandaidctrl
Albeit, vouchers for abortion might be a little too much, but you're seriously just nitpicking. In the article it also states that it gives discounts for EVERYTHING ELSE, do you realize how much an annual costs if you have no insurance? I had to pay $50 for a prescription and $70 for another, with insurance. PP happens to be a bit cheaper as it goes, but still expensive nonetheless.

I'm sure if your regional hospital were handing out vouchers for similar things it would be a great PR move.

Also take a look at abortion laws in Indiana
Women's Med Center, Indiana
Indiana Abortion Laws

It's legal there so why not?

edit again because my previous edit wasn't posted.
Long story short, I used to go to PP all the time, both before and after turning 18 (free exams for underage girls!) I've never been in a position where I had to choose to have an abortion or not (thank God). So saying that the only reason to go to PP is for abortion is false, they are still significantly cheaper that most clinics, and they are a great option if your mother thinks that going to any sort of gyno before you're married makes you a harlot.
[edit on 2-12-2008 by bandaidctrl]

[edit on 2-12-2008 by bandaidctrl]


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 12:48 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Jkd Up
There are alot of reasons a woman might go to Planned Parenthood. Yes, mostly associated with abortion, but NOT the only thing they offer!


For the sake of accuracy, You couldn't be more wrong.

Planned Parenthood Statistics

In 2002, PP did 225,000 abortions, but ten times that amount got contraception (women).


Abortions Procedures 227,375
Contraception, Women 2,208,483
Contraception, Men 60,476
Emergency Contraception Kits 633,756
Male Sterilizations 2,522
Female Sterilizations 680
Infertility 325
Colposcopy Procedures 31,248
Cryotherapy Procedures 3,913
HIV Testing, Women 126,477
HIV Testing, Men 48,991
Primary care 24,483
Midlife clients 10,575
Breast Exams/Breast Care 1,062,727
Pregnancy tests 1,081,772
Prenatal clients 15,860
LOOP/LEEP Procedures 1,529
STI Procedures, Women & Men 1,255,036
Other Services, Women 58,626
Other Services, Men 17,905


Planned Parenthood is just what the name says and more. People get breast exams, HIV testing, pregnancy tests and lots of other services there. For many years, Planned Parenthood has offered reasonably priced family planning and care to those who can't otherwise afford it. They are a responsible and reputable organization.

I think it's wonderful that they are offering a discount on their procedures.

Moonsouljah


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 12:57 PM by Finn1916
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



I think what jkdup mean was whenou hear about planned parenthood most people first think of abortions. Manypeople have no idea they offer as many services as they do.



reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 12:58 PM by chickenshoes
Originally posted by wheresthetruth


This is just sickening. For Christmas, you get to kill your unborn child. Not only that, but you get to do it at a discount. This is an absolute perversion of choice.

Not only that, but the group is also known to be a non-profit that is able to, surprisingly, rake in an enormous profit. As well, they have been noted for their ability to look away when the legal ramifications dont lend themselves to their "bottom line".

www.washingtontimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Well, it seems that you totally missed this quote from the article:

Betty Cockrum, president and chief executive of Planned Parenthood of Indiana, said the program was initiated in response to the state's ailing economy.

"Our patients are principally low-income women, and so, needless to say, those patients are more challenged now than ever," Ms. Cockrum said. "We find that when women are [financially] strapped, they're more worried about putting food on the table and gas in their car, and their health care is often put by the wayside."


Seems to me more like they're promoting better health care and pregnancy prevention among the groups that need it the most.

I saw nothing whatsoever in that article which implied in any way, shape or form that they were promoting Christmas abortions.

It seems that it had never occurred to you that things like annual exams and pregnancy prevention are actually a healthy thing for women.


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 01:17 PM by chickenshoes
reply to post by wheresthetruth



Not to go on and on, but could you also explain to me how you derived from this quote from the article that Planned Parenthood is promoting Christmas abortions [or even abortions, period]?


Ms. Cockrum said that while the certificates may be redeemed for abortions, "I can't imagine that could happen."

"An abortion is a tragic and urgent situation in a women's life, and gift certificates don't lend themselves to that," she said.

Ms. Cockrum added that the vast majority of services provided by Planned Parenthood are for basic health care, such as Pap tests, which cost $58 at the group's centers.

"Even a gift certificate for $25 goes a long way toward what's potentially a life-saving but certainly just essential, basic health care for a loved one," she said.



In fact, can you even point out any place, any place at all in the article where Planned Parenthood says that it's hoping to get lots of Christmas abortions through this new gift certificate program?

[edit on 12/3/2008 by chickenshoes]

[edit on 12/3/2008 by chickenshoes]


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 01:20 PM by theindependentjournal
reply to post by wheresthetruth



Abortions for Christmas, well isn't that special! And he knows who is naughty and nice?Isn't Christmas for children as they say?

Although it does seem fitting as Christ Mass is in fact a pagan ritual of death of children that were fertilized on the Easter pagan holiday.

This has got to be the SICKEST thing I have seen on ATS to date...

GOD FORGIVE THEM IF HE CHOOSES!


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 01:34 PM by scientist
lets not forget the origins of Planned Parenthood. Yes, unwanted children.. but unwanted by who?

www.blackgenocide.org...


At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

Sanger's other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as "scientific" and "humanitarian." And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America's human "breeding stock" and purging America's "bad strains." These "strains" included the "shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South."

Pages: <<  1    2    3    4  >>    ^^TOP^^




Newest topics getting replies, in real-time:

Anonymous hacks CIA
  Breaking Alternative News, Posted 15 hours ago, 109 replies
Free Psychic Readings
  General Chit Chat, Posted 11 hours ago, 95 replies
Hollow Earth Theory New Evidence.
  General Conspiracies, Posted 9 hours ago, 62 replies
Free will
  Philosophy and Metaphysics, Posted 13 hours ago, 50 replies