People see the 2012 phenomenon as a "doomsday" because the majority of people will face death. I really don't have any words of confert for those people as their fear is unrealistic. Their doom is an illusion. The way I see it is upon death, as long as you weren't a real bastard in life, you wake up.

When you're sleeping at night and having a dream, it's often something scary that wakes you up. However when you awake you realize it was more a dream then a reality anyway. All that pain fades away. Would you dread being awoken from a good dream? Sometimes we do. I know I am like "darn that was an awesome dream" but then I have a cup of coffee and get on with my life.

Sure you're going to be held accountable for the things you've done here. However God judges by your heart.

I sometimes wonder why people find this phyiscal life so captivating they'd not want it to end.

I guess if the question is why do people search for doomsday the answer would have to be because something deep inside all knows its there.

Death is there every day, if you get out of bed or not, if you cross that street out of time or if you stay on the sidewalk. Death is coming for you, it's only a matter of time.

Everyone might not consciously think such but there is those thoughts somewhere in the greater conscious mindset of the phyical animal that is man.

However doomsday isn't the same to everyone. To me it is exactly what it truly is, the havesting of souls. However to some bitter people it is the selfrightous belief that "THEY" will get what's comming to them. Those that believe such don't realize "THEY" are them.

Originally posted by Seekingmyself
you are too kind. Here are a few questions, if you feel like answering them

1. What exactly do you believe will happen in 2012? Will it be cataclysmic? How will 90% of the people die? Do you believe the survivors are pre-determined?

2. How did you come to your conclusion, and how long ago?

3. Is there a way for people to prepare?

First of all I must admit you are SEXY ... lol ... Sorry couldn't ignore that cute face of yours ... and now let me tell you what I have seen in MY VISIONS I was shown in 2003.

In one of my visions I found myself stranded in my own city (I reside in Toronto, Ontario, Canada). Yonge Street was unrecognizable anymore due to the great amount of snow that filled the entire place I was in. There was SO MUCH snow that at one point I simply had to make my way out of the deep snow. If you ever seen aftermath of an avalanche that would be it. One thing I must mention is that the geography itself has changed. Instead of what one would recognize to be Yonge Street and it's surroundings there were mountains with hills and valleys which in turn makes me to conclude that there were a series of great earthquakes that took place previously to cause an acute geographical changes to the surface of the land itself. Throuthout this entire vision I only seen a few individuals and a few barely recognizable structures . I felt lost, helpless and desperate. I knew that there were only few who survived and I was one of them. I will never forget that feeling of helplessness and desperation. What do I do now? Where should I go? How will I survive this? God please help me! I couldn't believe I found myself in this dire situation. It's was unreal but I knew it was my reality and I had to find a way out of this mess.

I had more visions including what some people call planet X and though I see no evidence by our astronomers to indicate that it exists I have seen it in one of my great visions. I am willing to tell you about it only if you are interested.

Thank you for your time.

[edit on 2-12-2008 by stanislav]

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humanity in itself has never been peaceful. in all the history we have on record, never once was it peaceful.

even the mayans, supposedly as long as 10,000 years ago sacrificed humans in the cruelest of ways. there have been thousands of civil wars. there was the holocaust, KKK, numerous hate crimes and more wars starting every single day still.

as much as we would like to think of people as being generally good... many of our actions prove otherwise.

Originally posted by calihan123
humanity in itself has never been peaceful. in all the history we have on record, never once was it peaceful.

as much as we would like to think of people as being generally good... many of our actions prove otherwise.

Well calihan123, unfortunally you're mistaken, although what you say is true. The fact is that when things are peaceful, there is very little "history" to record. Most of our history has been written by the winners or such things as wars. As the statement goes, "to the victor go the spoils", but in times of peace everyone is too fuzzy bunny to need to record the lovefest.

I've seen both selfish and selfless actions come from the same people. True be said we are a mixed bag. Their is an old indian story that goes:

"
Each man has within them a white wolf and a dark wolf.
The white wolf lives on truth and light and love.
The dark wolf feeds on fear and anger and hate.
The question remains what wolf will YOU BECOME.
The answer is the one you feed the most.
"

with the world how it is and all of the starving, poverty ridden countries, wars, terrorism, etc. how can people not have a doom and gloom outlook on life ... it's all most people hear about in the world

Originally posted by Seekingmyself

Originally posted by FiatLux
Doom and gloom? Doom and gloom can be used as a tool for waking people up. We have brought the problems we have upon ourselves, as a way to awaken us from many many years of spiritual slumber. Are the problems we are seeing real, yes, very much so, no doubt about it. But, as we awaken that which has been asleep deep within us for many years, you will see many changes occur around you. The spiritual side of humanity has been buried for so long, we have ventured away from our true selves and our return to the one. And now is the time of awakening of that spiritual side of us all.

Do we need what is going on around us, yes, many do. Sometimes it takes a good slap in the face to wake us up, pain and hardship will do that. I know I will get sliced and diced for what I am saying, but, what is a little more pain in this life going to hurt? Will everyone wake up? No, not everyone will, but a vast majority will.

I feel spirtually lost. Raised catholic...but I don't agree with most of the principals. I am struggling to find the religion thats right for me. I feel very in tune with the world, I am very intuitive...but I am at a point in my life currently where I don't know where to go. Again, this is a subject that I can seldomly bring up in everyday life. Do you have any words of wisdom?

Do you have to have a religion? If you are spiritual and you beleive in an afterlife or somekind, that doesnt mean you have to follow a specific religion. You can be happy just being spiritual.

Originally posted by Incarnated
If you truly look at the positive, the 2012 phenomenon is very GOOD for "Mankind" as a whole. People are born and die, but mankind carries on.

The benifits for mankind from this 2012 phenomenon are countless.

I don't exactly agree with you because if only 10% of mankind survives, it's going to be positive but to Nature, not to man.

If human population became sparse, we'll have to compete with animals again, we'll be exposed to more dangers. We'll probably lose our technology because we'll concern ourselves with survival than, maintaining technology.

Unless of course, people have finally got beyond their corrupted nature and learned to cooperate and care for each other. Even just 10% of human population is just enough to start a new civilization and develop technology even surpassing what we have now.

One such Positive scenario depicted in a movie is the film 'Star Trek First Contact' Where a tiny fraction of human survivors after WWIII got over their differences, went on to develop technology that would solve energy problems, unite the world and later, a large chunk of the galaxy.

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I think humanity is just more easily moved by evil and suffering than by happiness.

Which is kinda pathetic and I think what will REALLY happen in 2012, if anything happens, and I hope this happens, is some kind of cosmic energy shift in the solar system that will shift us from "half empty" to "half full" - which is all we REALLY need for world peace.