Life on Mars??? Revisited: The scientific facts!

reply to post by NavalFC

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Don't worry about it. Many of us on ATS know him very well by his other nickname vze2xjjk. Just take a look at his many, many posts under his old nickname.

reply to post by NavalFC

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Yeah don't worry. As i posted before.....

"Dude, i just read through your intire thread on "Mars woman" from beginning this year under your username "vze2xjjk" and i have got say........ "

I would like to know were he got those 3d mars images from so i can have a little fun with them myself. Since i have MSpaint aswell and wanted to find a couple of those "aliens" to.

By the way...did you read about the part that most marsians wear hats!!!

cracked me up....

There are reflections of Mars visitors to the rovers.Same face,movement between clicks,proof of multiple images overlapped.

reply to post by jjjerry

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Yea i have no clue for sure what the pictures are but they dont look like alien..just looking at the photos the things on the right and left appear to be instrumentation of a rover of some kind.
But if you think this pic proves aliens are on mars NOW your incorrect

reply to post by NavalFC

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Agreed NavalFC, this IS bogus evidence to support the intelligent life on Mars hypothesis, but that doesn't mean that NASA is telling us the whole truth about Mars or our solar system, do you really believe that Mars is a baron wasteland just because "official" government organizations like NASA tell you so? Or even because "mainstream" Science tell you so?

You should do more research before you go in to every thread denying and debunking, and since you obviously have a particular distaste for this subject matter completely, I fail to see why you come in to all these threads in the first place.

It has been said that even the continuous derailing by certian individuals, usually either have an agenda, be it personal or other, or/and they are a part of the group assigned specifically to do a job by the same organizations that have been discrediting alternative research for the last 40 years.

Back then it was done through publications of books, tv interviews, and newspaper clippings. Today, its easier because the black op protectors can hide behind a pc and throw up obvous net nic names and they always have the same tune that resonates with the precision of a tuning fork.

I knew of such a person 15 yrs ago. They are out there, and do come to forums such as this one. Most of it is for them to get an idea of where the mindset is of the general public, and ATS is a like a haven for such a study. You got some in here that are clearly a part of that program..not that I am saying NavalFC there is one of them. (snicker). But after working with alot of them in the past in other places, right along side with them in some cases ( and boy do I regret it), it is a way to try to balance the status quo with the planned disclosure, as it has been for a long time. A little bit of truth mixed in with alot of garbage.

Our task is to seperate the chaff from the wheat. Once you spot them, its easy to pick em out. When someone gets close to the truth, they come out of the woodwork and instantly throw up the "bogus" routine. It is a pattern, a first strike move on thier part to catch up on the subject being discussed so they can temporarily disrupt it and develop the second strike post. Again, its so easy to spot and track. I used to be a part of that lie and know all their tricks.


Cheers!!!!

[edit on 7-12-2008 by RFBurns]

reply to post by RFBurns

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Oh please.. so you cant disprove my arguments so you accuse me of using bogusness lying tricks and i might even be a "disinfo agent" or what have you. what BS.

Scientific evidence doesnt agree with you, so now you feel the need to attack me and make all sorts of ridiculous and baseless accusations.

Naval intelligence person look at the above pic from the rover Opprtunity as the inset reads and the sol I think 024.The NASA logo is obvious by the outline even if it is a negative image of what you'd normally see.Nasa doesn't have time to cover their tracks by blurring both NEGATIVE and POSITIVE images,because 99% of the sheep will only look at the positive images and believe their eyes...nothing there,just rocks,time to leave ho hum. I give you a negative image and you act like it's trickery or a witches spell cast to fool the righteous clods among us. Yes there is life on Mars and has been long before computers on Earth were here to view the beings there.Even long before astronuts in diapers drove cross country to kill their rivals to save their RELATIONSHIP ,LOL. But I digress.What would the Mars people think of our daily lives? Show some respect for the guy who designed the rovers 1987. jjjerry

Look i found life on earth!

Thanks Jerry for an awsome thread and keep it coming, I am fairly new to this site and have not seen or read most of your previous posts.


Thanks

Thanks Bob Down Under.It appears that the masking is done in Aussie in the middle lands Pine Gap I believe where the Mars downloads supposedly go first to be filtered by the military.That's unverified info gathered from several sources unknown to each other. Nasa scientsts in the states are supposedly then at less risk of disclosure because most are kept clueless about actual life on Mars since the military strategy of compartmentalized knowledge limits their big picture capability and "need to know". How do you hide life on Mars in clear sight? Blurring and darkening,masking,cropping out. Dino baby fossil day 15 (2004) Opportunity

those are ROCKS clear as day!

reply to post by NavalFC

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The human race is so young and foolish. You are a prime example of this. If you only knew what you were talking about then you would understand how unintelligent you sound.

Don't say it's bogus, that it's your mind filling in the information that make's you see that. You have no proof that it's not what people think it is. Unless you go up there stand in-front of it and then see that it's just a rock you should say nothing.

saying something is bogus without knowing for a fact that it is, Is Idiotic.

Yes the mind does fill in the information for many things that may not be what they seem, but the mind also fills in information from current understanding of things. This means that your brain can pick up information and patterns that it is use to seeing. Everything has to do with pattern recognition. We see a humanoid figure because our brains are able to see the pattern that we are familiar with. We see a face because our brains see the patter of the eyes, nose, mouth, and overall shape of the face.

None of what you have said proves that what we are seeing on Mar's is not real or not what we perceive it to be. It just means our brains our picking up patterns of things we are most familiar with.

Not that it's just a pile of sand or a rock formation, but a formation the mostly resembles what we are most familiar with.

Thank you

reply to post by The_Sixth

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A star deserved!!!



Cheers!!!!

reply to post by RFBurns

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heh. as I said to him, I have said numerous times n these threads that it was people picking out familiar patterns. Apparently no one here bothered to check what pareidollia means

reply to post by NavalFC

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I completely understand what it's called because I knew of it before even reading this post. You just don't seem to understand what you are talking about properly. I have done much research on the brain and I know much of how our brains pick up patterns from nothing. The FACT is just because our brains pick up these patterns does not prove in anyway that they are not real or real.

The fact is we see a face and a humanoid formation.... thats it.

pareidollia proves nothing other than our brains see patterns.

Do some more research on the subject then come back and we can talk about it.

It's doesn't prove anything though especially that what we are seeing it not what it seems to be.

reply to post by The_Sixth

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Yes but when combined with higher res photos of the areas, which I LINKED to, that orety much shows its not a face (since you addressed that)

as for the others, no one would even know what they are "supposed" to see unless you told them

This is the most compelling compilation video I've seen regarding life on Mars.
www.youtube.com...

I am almost convinced.