reply to post by Rockpuck
Benefits and entitlements?
What has that to do with socialism?
Socialism, in it's traditional and true definition, means "the workers democratic ownership and/or control of the means of production". Such
a definition implies that rather than a government bureaucracy for managing such means, there is a focus on highly democratic organisation, education
and awareness, and every individual is encouraged to become an active, rather than passive participant in that which effect their lives. Only the
workers themselves bear the knowledge of what their own freedom and liberty means, and only they know what is best for themselves, ultimately.
Advocates of the state, be they on the left, or the right, have repeatedly defined the meaning of "socialism" to mean arbitrary rule by a set of
"leaders", or a political con-game in which socialism is no more than capitalism with a few token adjustments for bearability.
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If anybody tries to tell you socialism is not what I bolded in the above quote then they are lying to you. Marx included. Anything else is just the
ideas of another man from the confusion of their brains.
Social programs is not 'socialism', but a necessity in a capitalist system.
With socialism there will be no need for welfare. Capitalism creates the need for social programs because capitalism creates poverty.
The capitalist system is set up to protect wealth not people.
The truth about 'social programs'...
Call it phony universalism, Robin Hood in reverse, or socialism for the rich -- the United States spends almost as much helping the have-plenties
as the have-nots.
American Socialism for the Already Rich
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