To help everyone out especially those who are new to QP or are unfamiliar with the movie, I found this link to watch
"What the Bleep" fast and free!
Originally posted by OldThinker
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Hey gormly, Are you asking about the OP? Or my last short statement, with a question mark?
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Thanks for asking btw!
Originally posted by gormly
reply to post by OldThinker
While I appreciate your effort that went into this, I mostly got a "indistinguishable from magic" quote popping in my head.
The same old argument that if we can't understand it, it must be from God?
Did anyone else get that from this or is it just me?
Note: this is not an attack.. just an observation.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
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One of the things that I see in most of these comments is that quantum theory,string theory and all other scientific maps are rigorously defined by mathematics.It may be a level of math that most of us wouldn't recognize but the strong definitions and rules are in the math. In faith there is no such definition at all, just a way of looking at life and phenomena.
It also sort of annoys me when people ask a perfectly good question and then it gets muddied by quotes from the Bible or some other book of folk tales like that. Lets keep our philosophy seperate from our rigorously defined science, ok?
Someone had to have started it off, and then the more i think about it the more it looks as if creationism starts to make a lot more sense and this place we live in starts to look a lot more like a prison.
Suddenly the idea surrounding the Matrix stories doesnt seem so far fetched.
im not saying we are in a computer program, but i think we might be somewhere meant to be like it.
And we are trapped, but those who let their minds escape are able to change and influence the matrix.
Originally posted by gormly
Originally posted by OldThinker
reply to post by gormly
I was asking basically about the OP but my thinking was probably a bit biased by the many subsequent comments as well.
That plus I find it personally annoying (not you.. or your ideas) in my life when people say things like "he moves in mysterious ways" or "Gods will" when speaking with the religious. They tend to dismiss anything they do not understand as "God", it's like a catch all for scientific ignorance.
Then to read equating talk between bible/god/quantum/science just kind of brings it all to head.
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