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Topic started on 1-12-2008 @ 05:03 PM by FX44rice
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This bill, sponsored by none other than Sen. Barack Obama, with the backing of Joe Biden on the Foreign Relations Committee, and liberal democrats in
Congress, is nothing short of a massive giveaway of American wealth around the world, and a betrayal of the public trust, because, if passed, this
bill would give over many aspects of our sovereignty to the United Nations.
The noble sounding name of this bill, 'The Global Poverty Act' is actually a Global Tax, payable to the United Nations, that will be required of all
American taxpayers. If passed in the Senate, the House has already passed it, this bill would require the U.S. to increase our foreign aid by $65
BILLION per year, or $845 BILLION over the next 13 years! That's on top of the billions of dollars in foreign aid we already pay out!
In addition to the economic burdens this potential law would place on our precarious economy, the bill, if passed in the Senate, would also endanger
our constitutionally protected rights and freedoms by obligating us to meet certain United Nations mandates.
According to Senator Obama, we should establish these United Nations' goals as benchmarks for U.S. spending. What are they?
* The creation of a U.N. International Criminal Court having the power to try and convict American citizens and soldiers without any protection
from the U.S. Constitution.
* A standing United Nations Army forcing U.S. soldiers to serve under U.N. command.
* A Gun Ban on all small arms and light weapons --which would repeal our Second Amendment right to bear arms.
* The ratification of the ' Kyoto ' global warming treaty and numerous other anti-American measures.
Recently, the Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations (where Sen. Joe Biden sits) approved this plan by a voice vote without any discussion! Why all
the secrecy? If Senators Obama and Biden are so proud of this legislation, then why don't they bring it out into the light of day and let the
American people have a look at it instead of hiding it behind closed doors and sneaking it through Congress for late night votes
It may be only a matter of time before this dangerous legislation reaches a floor vote in the full body of the Senate.
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:10 PM by ThatDGgirl
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The REALLY bad news is: We already know what's going to happen if it reaches the Senate. "Roll over! Good dog!!"
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:10 PM by infolurker
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errr.. yeah, where have you been?
This is one of the many issues why I could not vote for him. Giving one ounce of sovereignty over to that corrupt organization makes me sick to my
stomach. Our politicians and businesses are corrupt enough.. the UN makes them look like choir boys.
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:16 PM by FX44rice
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Yeah exactly. However, the problem is awareness must be brought to this Bill before it is passed under our noses. I guess if we want to stop
this disgusting abuse our Gov't dishes out we need to get involved and contact the clowns in Congress and make it known we do not approve.
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:17 PM by all2human
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Nobody should be surprised at this, the amount of debt the USA is buried is absolutely staggering, it can NEVER be re-paid, the effect of years of
corrupt government,failed bank practices, loss of the manufacturing base and greed has garage sale'd America's economy,now we cannot print the
money fast enough,we may soon be burning it to stay warm
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:21 PM by cpdaman
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bump
i need to learn a bit more about this bill and i will
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:21 PM by FX44rice
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It should be known this Bill has NOT been passed YET. It needs to be stopped for very apparent reasons. Obviously the MSM won't cover this yet
you'll hear about the trampled Wal Mart Clerk on every channel every hour.
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:34 PM by dunwichwitch
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Take it all down.... top to bottom.
The most you'll get from your congressman is a letter from his secretary, while he goes and worships goat gods in the woods at night.
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:42 PM by GoalPoster
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Here is an excellent link to track the status of legislation.
I've linked S. 2433
This bill was considered in committee which has recommended it be considered by the Senate as a whole. Although it has been placed on a calendar
of business, the order in which bills are considered and voted on is determined by the majority party leadership. Keep in mind that sometimes the text
of one bill is incorporated into another bill, and in those cases the original bill, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned. [Last
Updated: Nov 6, 2008]
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:45 PM by jam321
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For some reason, I am under the impression that all bills not passed by the current Congress are basically null and void once a new Congress is sworn
in. That means a new Congress would have to write a new bill in order for it to be considered. Anybody ever hear of this?
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:48 PM by FX44rice
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 06:06 PM by thefreepatriot
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not good.... especially the part where u.s soldiers will be under u.n command..Probaly be perfect for when troops are ordered againts U.S citizens.
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 06:50 PM by liketoknow
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Originally posted by FX44rice
* The creation of a U.N. International Criminal Court having the power to try and convict American citizens and soldiers without any protection
from the U.S. Constitution.
* A standing United Nations Army forcing U.S. soldiers to serve under U.N. command.
* A Gun Ban on all small arms and light weapons --which would repeal our Second Amendment right to bear arms.
* The ratification of the ' Kyoto ' global warming treaty and numerous other anti-American measures.
Maybe I'm missing something here but where exactly in the bill are these recommendations made?
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 07:27 PM by FX44rice
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reply to post by liketoknow
Refer to GoalPoster's previous post he added a comprehensive link on the Bill.
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 07:42 PM by aleon1018
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Sounds like the NWO
The UN army draft? Hmmmm, where will you run? where will you hide?
Recently on one of the channels it was mentioned about how many would starve if the U.S.A. couldn't keep it's crop productions up. I have serious
doubts other countries would be in the position to help feed the U.S.A.
They also showed on the news about producing some high protein mixture using peanut butter which wasn't called "Plumpy nut" either for $6.00 a
bag.
Those poor kids need that so they can grow up to be Muslim rebels?
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 07:49 PM by ZindoDoone
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 08:08 PM by cpdaman
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Originally posted by cpdaman
bump
i need to learn a bit more about this bill and i will
seems this may be a TRICKY situation
as one comment shown on the link goal poster gave us and i quote
S.2433 The Global Poverty Act does not have anything to do with gun control. This bill does not address gun control in any way. As stated in the
above answer: Gun control issues are part of the UN Millenium Declaration (not a US authored or approved or agreed upon declaration). If the United
States passes our S.2433 bill, it is addressing only the Global Poverty issue of this UN Millenium Declaration. The United States doesn't loose
constitutional protections by agreeing to have a plan that is yet to be determined by the President. This bill is not in any way an agreement by the
United States to agree to all points of the UN Millennium Declaration. What this bill actually means: "OK United Nations, the United States agrees to
address this one portion of your UN Millennium Declaration by agreeing that our President will come up with a plan towards the 2015 timeframe
addressing Global Poverty
seems this makes sense but then in response to this another poster quotes the previous poster in the first paragraph and then in the second paragraph
is his reply (sorry if this is a bit confusing)
"Gun control issues are part of the UN Millenium Declaration (not a US authored or approved or agreed upon declaration). If the United States
passes our S.2433 bill, it is addressing only the Global Poverty issue of this UN Millenium Declaration".
It is my understanding that S.2433 and the UN Millenium Declaration are joined. To participate in the global poverty program requires signing the
Millenium Declaration. That being the case, gun control is not far behind. If you find anything to the contrary, please post
so there we have it........the KEY to finding out what this law will do in regards to giving the UN the rights to disarm certain regions along w/ all
the other crappola is wether participating in the global poverty program requires signing the millenium Declaration.
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 08:20 PM by cpdaman
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Zindo you have a thread about the Same act but the point of this thread is something that your thread missed.
The possible fact that the U.S may have to sign the UN millenium document in order to participate in the Global policy act and which would therefore
allow the UN legal right over the U.S to potentially DIsarm regions (like the U.S.A) and a whole host of other things mentioned at the top of this
thread in the first post by the OP.
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 08:30 PM by cpdaman
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while trying to dig and find if indeed the U.S.A would need to sign the UN millenium declearation to move forward with the global poverty act i came
across another poster who seems to verify that they would. I pulled this of the following board
www.titantalk.com...
and to quote poster named rholland who was the OP
The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to
sign onto the U.N.'s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to "banning small arms and light weapons" but also to adhere to the
International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol
hmm wonder if this could in some way be connected to Biden's weird speech that the world would test Barack Obama and that they would need the help
of community leaders to stand with the administration even though at first it may not seem like they are doing the right thing?? hmm....btw biden's
name is on this bill
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