The two villages where mothers killed EVERY baby born a boy for ten years, page 4
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 11:42 PM by Heike
reply to post by Shystargazer


You were on the right track but you didn't follow it far enough.

Women are instinctively predisposed to be attracted to "macho" men; warriors, fighters, hunters, providers. The type of guy who *might* have a higher testosterone level. Thus their male children are more likely to be macho fighters. It's called genetics. They've created their own problem. What they could have done is start choosing the geeky, wimpy little guys to mate with and then their sons wouldn't be such warmongers.

In other words, the meek should inherit the village, and its women.


Okay, I know it's not funny that they've killed all these children, but there are children all over the world who die every day. Getting all righteously angry about this won't change any of it.

I guess what I'm saying is, the generations of women of that village were to blame for the warring men because they kept choosing the "macho" men to mate with; the men weren't at fault for being who they were/are.

And PS I've had all my parts removed, no more hormones, no PMS, and I'm quite happy about it, thank you. Count me as a one percenter I guess.



reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 01:51 AM by megabyte
Originally posted by Heike
reply to post by Shystargazer


You were on the right track but you didn't follow it far enough.

Women are instinctively predisposed to be attracted to "macho" men; warriors, fighters, hunters, providers. The type of guy who *might* have a higher testosterone level. Thus their male children are more likely to be macho fighters. It's called genetics. They've created their own problem. What they could have done is start choosing the geeky, wimpy little guys to mate with and then their sons wouldn't be such warmongers.

In other words, the meek should inherit the village, and its women.



hmmm? i must have done the wrong thing then - i look for a male who can do all the housework for me - sod the fighter and the macho man who wants ME to serve HIM

lol


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 01:53 AM by megabyte
Originally posted by Heike
reply to post by Shystargazer


Okay, I know it's not funny that they've killed all these children, but there are children all over the world who die every day. Getting all righteously angry about this won't change any of it.

I guess what I'm saying is, the generations of women of that village were to blame for the warring men because they kept choosing the "macho" men to mate with; the men weren't at fault for being who they were/are.




right and of course there were no rapes or forced marriages by these macho guys even if a girl in that tribe did want to choose a guy who had brians and not just brawn - would you care to find proof that there were NO rapes ?



reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 03:19 AM by Shystargazer
reply to post by Heike


I agree with you 100%.

Have you noticed that not much is said about India and China killing most of the girl babies either thru abortion or murder? China has 2 million men that can't find wives. The 2 million man army of the East in the Book ofRevelation won't want your land or your money....they will be looking for women!


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 08:52 AM by centurion1211
Originally posted by Shystargazer
reply to post by Heike


I agree with you 100%.

Have you noticed that not much is said about India and China killing most of the girl babies either thru abortion or murder? China has 2 million men that can't find wives. The 2 million man army of the East in the Book ofRevelation won't want your land or your money....they will be looking for women!


Uh, if you had read the whole thread, you'd have noticed the large article I posted documenting this very thing.

Also, the true number is 111 million chinese men cannot find wives - more than the entire population of Canada.


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:50 AM by Heike
Originally posted by megabyte
right and of course there were no rapes or forced marriages by these macho guys even if a girl in that tribe did want to choose a guy who had brians and not just brawn - would you care to find proof that there were NO rapes ?


Huh? That's not even relevant. When considering how a population has evolved over time due to mating and reproductive choices, it's a question of percentages. Depending on the population of the village, one rape or forced marriage, or even ten of them, wouldn't significantly change the outcome.

The point, more or less, is that once upon a time we NEEDED the macho brawny guys to fight and hunt for us in order to survive, and that's why humanity overall has consistently selected them for breeding. Now, in the "modern" world, we don't need them to be warriors and hunters so we're blaming them for being what we (humanity collectively) have created through our choices over the generations.

Originally posted by Kailassa Whoever believes this newspaper-selling nonsense has no understanding of the strength of the maternal bond and what mothers will go through to protect their children.


How can you just ignore hundreds of years of human history? Infanticide as population control, birth control, and societal engineering is a well-established human tradition, and continues today. Of course, these days we've made it a bit more palatable by being able to kill the baby before it's born instead of after.


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reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 04:22 PM by bigfatfurrytexan
Originally posted by Orwells Ghost
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Being buddhist, i believe that our creator made these bodies flawed in various ways to help focus on what our purposes here are: to learn from experience.


I too believe our reason for being here is to learn and grow from our experience. That's why the world can seem like such a nasty place sometimes; If everything was perfect, we'd have nothing to learn, right? So does that rule out genetic modification? I believe the issues we have both collectively and as individuals can be worked out without external influences such as modern medicine and technology. Do we really stand to benefit from mucking about with genetic codes of which our knowledge is limited at best?


It will create new challenges. If we increase life spans, then we have population to worry about. If we change food crops, then we have possible issues with destruction of environment to deal with.

We will reach for the Gods, but lack the intellect to do so with anything but ignorance. Each new achievement creates a new challenge. We have created antibiotics, and this has given rise to superinfection.

I think that somewhere in the past many of our crops were genetically tinkered with. Corn has the longest DNA sequence on Earth. How does this happen through simple selective "breeding"?

Have you ever seen the kernel from wild wheat? Nothing really there, and the hull is exceptionally thick. How did we get such plump germs?
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