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Originally posted by dalek
All this from a public admission of love between 2 men or 2 women and the same legal rights as a man and woman doing the same?.
Don't forget people the majority of the gay and religous community will maintain their own personal views on this subject and move on and worry about where the next mortgage payment comes from.
It is only the extremists on both sides that makes the headlines and it's you guys that are eating up the media feed with a big spoon.
Theres bigger problems in the world at the momment.
You're really reaching now. First you equate gays to pedophiles now polygamists. What's next? Beastiality?
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by Jim Scott
Why can't people learn to live together?
Someone's sex life / preferences as long as it is with another consenting adult is nobody else's business.
Homosexual hatred is like a religion hatred, it's a ego power trip: ie: I have the answers on how everyone should live, everyone should be like me, heterosexual, christian, republic, middle class, etc etc etc.
Well there are many colors in the rainbow not just one.
Again I stress, one's sexual life is usually best kept private and nobody else's business.
Outword displays of overt sexuality in public are tasteless and offensive from either homosexual and heterosexual.
Why can't people be more kind, tolerant and have a little more dignity? Are we humans reverting back to a more animalistic state devoid of self control and decorum in public?
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Now they have a musical against Prop 8.
If you don't think the gay movement is very very serious about destroying the opposition to Prop 8, I ask you this:
My point, therefore, is why shouldn't we supporters of Prop 8 do the same back to them?
Go to the list at SFGate, find out who supported Prop 8 in your town, and let them know you are purchasing at their store because they supported Prop 8.
Maybe we should be more "pro-human". We're all in this together and the seperation of individuals that the PTB are employing, to keep us screwing with each other, is harming all of us. We put that crap behind us and WE have power.
Originally posted by ProFiler.DSS
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Good ol Jeff was responsible for the line "separation of church and state," too. While we're at it, let's get rid of that. Ok?
That wouldn't be a good idea. If this had been applied in this case, the Mormon church funding Prop. 8 with money and manpower, we wouldn't be discussing this ridiculous premise.
Well, you already are aware of the separation of church and state arguement about keeping the state out of the church, not the other way around. So, that doesn't apply to the Mormon church involvement. They are, under the separation of church and state doctrine espoused by T.J., quite appropriately involved. However, I digress and am leading you off topic. My apology.
Yeah but it isn't the other way around. You see the separation powers were never intended to keep religion out of politics but out of GOVERNMENT.
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Here is the actual letter from Jefferson. You can see that his intention was to prevent the government from having anything to do with religion, not the other way around as you so claim.
www.usconstitution.net...
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by DarrylGalasso
On the other hand, whites, conservatives, heterosexual, and religious groups have no backbone and will never band together to orchestrate boycotts. The media knows these groups are self indulging, and could care less what happens to their neighbor so long as they themselves are left alone.
No backbone? Please, do not lump all whites,conservatives, heterosexuals and religious groups into a "no backbone" catagory. The reason you dont see many organized boycotts from these said groups is they have less of the "demand our rights" platforms to rally behind. Blacks have the race issue, and Gays want their acceptance. Most of the groups you mention do not orchestrate boycotts because although they may not agree with the actions, they lack the driving inspiration (race discrimination, gay aceptance) to engage in these boycott actions. Ignorant statements like that are what fuel these duscussions into unintelligent bashing. Please, think before you type, and then re-read it before you post it.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Should we boycott gay businesses?
I don't know any 'gay businesses' to boycott.
If I did - I wouldn't boycott unless I knew the owners either helped with the lunacy against the Mormons or if they were sympathetic to those terrorizing the Mormons.
Originally posted by CharlesMartel
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Should we boycott gay businesses?
I don't know any 'gay businesses' to boycott.
If I did - I wouldn't boycott unless I knew the owners either helped with the lunacy against the Mormons or if they were sympathetic to those terrorizing the Mormons.
Besides, if you boycotted them, you would be giving them free publicity!
A more effective strategy would be to stop doing business with companies that advertise in "gay publications". Of course, since I don't read any "gay publications", I would not know what advertisers support their propaganda.
Originally posted by DarrylGalasso
reply to post by Jim Scott
First I want to say I am not anti-anything other than anti-predatory people.
Do you want to know why the media is pro-gay? I will tell you and even give some examples. The media is scared of them plain and simple. I do not mean scared personally I mean scared of their boycott. For this same reason the media is pro-black, pro-feminist and pro anything else they fear retribution from.
Now do you want to know why the media is anti-white, anti-conservative, anti-religious, and anti-heterosexual? For the exact opposite reason. They do not fear whites, conservatives, religious organizations, or heterosexuals.
The black race is a tight knit community as is the gay community and the feminist community. If you say something negative, whether it is true or not, they will within days have orchestrated a boycott of tens of thousands of people if not hundreds of thousands. This means losses for their advertisers which in turn means they have to sell advertising slots at a lower price.
On the other hand, whites, conservatives, heterosexual, and religious groups have no backbone and will never band together to orchestrate boycotts. The media knows these groups are self indulging, and could care less what happens to their neighbor so long as they themselves are left alone. This group kind of resembles cowboys in that they function independently and do not rely of gang tactics or overwhelming force to get what they want. This is the white man's, conservative's, and heterosexual's downfall. The media is not stupid, they know who they have to listen to and who they don't, just like a child. They may give the babysitter that "who cares what you say" look, but that all changes when mommy and daddy walk in the front door. The white race accounts for a vast majority of the population, yet they have no strength, no cohesion, and no collective sense of self.
And before everyone here starts bashing me, understand this; I am not anti-gay, anti-black, or anti-anything except as I said anti-predatory people and I would definitely classify the media as predatory. I am; however, anti-media because I firmly believe they are the most biased people in the world and they do not care if your white, green, black, blue, straight, atheist, gay, or a prostitute on the street corner. They will prey upon those that allow them to do so, the black, gay, and feminist communities are brave enough to stand up to them, so they get fair to preferred treatment. If you think I am kidding, try to organize a media protest within the white community, if you are not laughed at, you will be ridiculed. The whites, conservatives, heterosexual, and religious organizations are so arrogant, they do not even see what lies right before their very eyes.
I would challenge anyone who reads this to try to organize a white, religious, conservative, or heterosexual protest or boycott and see just how far it goes. Please if anyone thinks they can pull this off, please report back to us on your success/failure.
This is just an observation from a nobody (not white, not black, not gay), trying to look at the picture in a non-biased analytical manner and sharing with you what I see.