reply to post by Xilvius
You should read your history books before you think that the humble origins of this thing are the true objective of it. Aw. It's so nice of our
government to protect us like this. What about the fact that you are supposed to be your own first line of defense, read the Federalist Papers.
Really, I think only a handful of people ever has. It cites example after example of tyrany and it's humble origins. Fact. Not fantasy.
As I posted from the crimes against the King from the US Declaration of Independance. :
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution ,and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their
Acts of pretended Legislation:
[Sound like Acts passed surrendering liberties for safety- safety we citizens would ensure best if we bore arms without regulation? Don't our Courts
repeatedly argue that the Constitution is neither the Supreme Law of the Land just because it is a contract which says so and was signed by, what the
Court deems, questionably adequate representatives of the people, nor subject to the democratic majority whim of the day. Don't they say We interpret
the Constitution and say what Law is, depite We being the People whose Constitution it is being bound and therefore part and parcel to it's existance
as a Living Law which cannot be superceeded by any Law or Decree of any Elected or Unelected official?]
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
[20,000 today, Hitler's Germany tommorow.]
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
[ Ever heard of Demographic Exemption? Search Black's Law Dictionary, various Local, State, Federal, International Laws for your area, or Google the
term. "All Pigs are Equal, Some Pigs are more Equal than Others"--G. Orwell, Animal Farm] [ And here let's not forget the mock Administrative
Courts which abound and are notorious for attacking the adversary to the position it's designed to support while defending the real supporters which
generally bankroll, empower, and sit it's board's---Just look at the FTC, FDA, US Postal Service, Social Services, and the like for widespread
examples of this, which abound plentifully in many, many areas of Law.]
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
{Not cut off, but, how about the Free Trade Agreements which are so imbalanced as to benefit the recieving Countries while blatantly damaging the US
economy due to it's unfairness. They may as well be making deals with the Mafia and Organized Crime, oh wait- the CIA and others already do.]
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
[ If this one is not obvious, we've nothing further to discuss...look at the sheer number of taxes and double taxes couched in misleading terms.
It's like paying alimony, child support {legal definition is money given to the parent or guardian of a minor child- not for the minor child itself,
which is hoped for as a benefit or a consequence- which is why an accounting is not required so as to protect the child as in the 18 yr of age
accounting rule for inherantes to children imposed by the IRS}, and maintainance support all at once. Three sources of money for support of the ex,
same things, different terms, usually imposed all at once. Taxes are the same way, enough said.]
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
[Guantanomo Bay and various Covert Courts, to say the least.]
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
[ Again, Guantanomo Bay and various Covert Courts, to say the least.]
For those who see no cause for concern, I compare you to German Citizens who sat in ignorance of the atrocities of Nazi Germany and, probably, among
the uneducated rank and file who might make a great slave.
