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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 10:29 AM by Mintwithahole.
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"8) How come according to Japanese, Chinese and Indian new reports, Osama bin laden was killed in Afghanistan in the fall of 2001 and was buried in an unmarked grave by his own men?"
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Your No 8 fact is very interesting. The reason that bin Laden's death (if he is really dead) has gone unreported in the west is because they may need to heap some more blame on him if they ever decide to do another so-called terrorist attack on the scale of 9/11.
The west, especially America, need their ultimate bogey man alive and well otherwise this facade called international terrorism collapses. Then we'd see who is really responsible. . .



reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 10:53 AM by adam_zapple
Here are a few answers for you, based on what I know:

Originally posted by andre18

1) Why are their no airport security videos of any of the nineteen accused Muslims boarding any of the highjacked planes?


Is there security video of ANY passenger boarding a plane on 9/11.
Was it the policy of the airport in question to obtain security video of every passenger as they board their respective plane?

Originally posted by andre18
2) How could Mohammed Atta's passport survive the fireballs explosion that supposedly cremated him, fly out of his pocket, fly out of the incinerated plane, flutter to the ground in two feet of debris and end up in readable condition in the hands of investigators? (All within 48 hours)


Probably the same reason this astronaut's diary survived the Columbia Shuttle breakup:
www.aish.com...

Or why thousands of other pieces of paper survived the initial plane impacts or subsequent tower collapses. If all of those don't surprise you, why does the passport?

Originally posted by andre18
3) Why did 19 Muslim men even need passports on domestic flights?


Photo-identification.

Originally posted by andre18
4) How were passports found but not the planes voice recorders?


See answer to #2. Voice recorders are not guaranteed to survive every crash.

Originally posted by andre185) Why did the highjack’s need passports they would never use again after their suicide flights?


See answer to #3

Originally posted by andre18
7) How come right after the attacks, CNN deceptively and repeatedly showed an airport security video of Mohammed Atta? (CNN neglected to tell viewers that the video showed Mohammed Atta boarding a plane at Portland Maine – not the highjacked plane)


That's a good question to ask CNN. My guess would be that they wanted a picture of the guy to show on tv. They got security footage showing him at one of the airports so they aired it. It's more compelling to see the suspect in an airport than it would be to show a mugshot. TV is still a ratings game.

Originally posted by andre18
9) How come since 9/11 FBI director Muller, BBC news and ABC have confirmed that 7 of the 19 Muslims did not die in the 9/11 crashes?


Confirmed? Or Reported?
There was a BBC article claiming such that was retracted due to error. I'm not aware of Muller or ABC making such claims. Sources, please.

Originally posted by andre18
10) How come one of the accused Muslims died a year before the 9/11 highjackings even occurred?


Which one? Source?


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 10:57 AM by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by adam_zapple



Is there security video of ANY passenger boarding a plane on 9/11.
Was it the policy of the airport in question to obtain security video of every passenger as they board their respective plane?
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I thought every passenger in an airport would have passed in front of scores of security cameras, both in the departure lounge and the duty free shops? If they were there they should be on film!


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 12:36 PM by adam_zapple
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
reply to
post by adam_zapple



Is there security video of ANY passenger boarding a plane on 9/11.
Was it the policy of the airport in question to obtain security video of every passenger as they board their respective plane?
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I thought every passenger in an airport would have passed in front of scores of security cameras, both in the departure lounge and the duty free shops? If they were there they should be on film!


Just because you thought it worked that way doesn't mean it did. Airports, and surveillance in general, were not in 2001 what they are today. If we had surveillance photos of every other passenger in that airport EXCEPT the hijackers, then you might have something.

Do you agree that demanding photos of the hijackers "boarding the doomed flights" is an unreasonable request? (If no, explain why)


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 02:08 PM by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by adam_zapple



Just because you thought it worked that way doesn't mean it did. Airports, and surveillance in general, were not in 2001 what they are today. If we had surveillance photos of every other passenger in that airport EXCEPT the hijackers, then you might have something.
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Well, actually I've worked on security in an airport and they have always had security cameras pointed in every direction imaginable. To listen to you you would think 9/11 was the first time anyone hijacked a plane or blew one up. Security at airports has always been tight and was made even tighter after Lockerbie.
I can well understand your point about the photographs of passengers and not of the hijackers but as far as I know nobody has really bothered to check this out. However the 7/7 bombers who attacked London did manage, somehow, to wander all over London, a city which has the most security cameras in the world, without being picked up by a single one of them!


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 02:13 PM by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by adam_zapple



They don't need a recognizeable face...they just need a guy in a turban vowing to kill Americans. OBL is recognizeable, but killing him off isn't going to make people think that Al-Queda is no longer a threat.
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I don't agree with you at all. Terrorism is personal. If every single person doesn't believe that the terrorists are after them then the concept doesn't work. During the troubles in Ireland people weren't upset by organisations or paramilitary's they were upset by the appearance of Adams or Paisley etc, and what they stood for For terrorism to truly work you need to be able to put a face to the so-called terrorist organisation who is trying to kill you.


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 02:38 PM by adam_zapple
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
I don't agree with you at all. Terrorism is personal. If every single person doesn't believe that the terrorists are after them then the concept doesn't work. During the troubles in Ireland people weren't upset by organisations or paramilitary's they were upset by the appearance of Adams or Paisley etc, and what they stood for For terrorism to truly work you need to be able to put a face to the so-called terrorist organisation who is trying to kill you.


A face...."A face". The face can, and does, change. If, tomorrow, the military were to announce that they killed OBL, does that mean that people will stop fearing Al-Queda? No. They will stop fearing OBL, but it will only be a matter of time before another figurehead takes his place or another terrorist organization becomes a bigger threat and they'll have someone else to fear. The idea that OBL must be kept alive in order to have someone to blame for the next attack doesn't make sense when it could simply be blamed on his successor.

Let's say, hypothetically, I was running this conspiracy you believe exists....that OBL is fake, etc etc. I would announce tomorrow that we'd killed OBL (now we're heroes), and when we carried out our next attack, we would "discover" that it was the work of OBL's younger, even MORE evil replacement as head of al-queda. The "sheeple" all eat it up and now they're afraid of someone else...AND since we are now heroes for killing OBL guess what the people want...."Get the new guy now too". Hey...another excuse for war (that's what we want, right?) It's a win-win-win. It makes way more sense than continuing to blame every attack on an old guy who isn't going to be around much longer.


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 07:03 PM by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by infinityoreilly



Underground fire...fed by plenty of fresh air from subway tunnels?

Sorry Griff, I guess I a more complete answer would have been, I have yet to see any proof of pools of molten steel SEVEN weeks after 9/11.

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