Police officers investigated after assault of Mark Aspinall caught on CCTV

I am not saying they are currently, but the thugs behind badges are the sole REASON we have the right to bear arms in America. According to one James Madison, co-writer of the Bill of Rights.

it's crazy because it was in my home town of little old Wigan. You dont expect something like that to happen outside your doorstep. So not only do i have to look out for the trouble makers when i go out, but also the police. I have always had the opinion that police have their hands tied behind their back and that this has been done by design, because it allows the criminals to run the streets, problem-reaction-solution, but then you get police brutality like this which is terrible.
Let me also add this for food for thought. The elites have set the system up by design to fail, they want people knifed in the street, crime going sky high and teachers unable to deal with disruptive students. So why the huge publicity with this? perhaps to get a back lash and give police even less powers?
It's all part of the left wing, right wing paradigm.

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The world has lost respect (which it never has had). I wonder what the alternate powers will choose as a message.

Another Sodom and Gamorrah seems likely. What is the target city.

In the video of the OP they state at the very beginning that this was a case of mistaken identity. They thought this was a guy that was harassing paramedics. They guy went to talk to the police and they start moving towards him.

So not only was his identity mistaken he was then charged with 2 accounts of assaulting a police officer. Yeah they really wanted to stick it to him. I can understand the guy was struggling at first (as would I if I knew I was about to be arrested for the wrong reason) but you can clearly see him in the video being still afterward and they just keep on going.

I hope all 3 of those cops are fired.

And for those of you who say "Oh he should have been beaten for being drunk in public etc etc" F**k you guys if alcohol weren't legal and not sold at BARS where you go to get DRUNK then I'm sure this wouldn't have been a problem.

Stop blaming the products of the system rather than the system itself.

I've been paying attention to the rise of the police state in the united states from my comfy home up in Canada for some time now. And I've seen some signs of corruption among cops here in Canada too, i.e. racism against natives, excessive force, and purgery for instance as well. However recently have I started to pay more attention to what is happening home here in Canada, rather than focusing on the states so much. What I am finding too is very scary in some regards - reassuring in others. I was pleased to learn for instance that Canada's government STILL retains the right to print it's own money if it so wishes. That's nice.. It's still a FIAT, and fractional reserve banking system we use, but still. However the police brutality, and the general behavior and attitude of our police up here is disgusting.

I mean in that very literally. While looking into the subject a bit on youtube, there were a few videos I found which actually make me ill. I certainly do not get the impression that any where should be issuing devices such as tasers to police. They simply are not responsible with their toys. Pepper spraying babies, punching children in the face, tasering without resistance(one such victim was a 70+ year old man on oxygen in a hospital bed mere hours after heart surgery... Yeah let's taser him. F'n pigs.)

A famous example of exposed brutality here in Canada was the death of a foreigner in the vancouver airport. Without provoking police(indeed he was asking for their help), he was tasered and killed. Following depositions submitted by police were later proven false by eye witness video tape.

Tasers are beside the point. I think them dangerous yes, but more so I find RCMP dangerous. What do they train these people like? Where do they recruit from? I mean.. they seem to have little regard for our welfare and in actually seem sadistic. Of course I don't mean every one by the way, how could I. Still though, I've met quite a few personally as well. Seen them 'in action' many times so to speak. See videos on youtube, and a month ago - there was week long stretch where police brutality made the front page of my local newspaper 5/6 publishing days in a row.

What I find myself wondering is, what could be done? Should something be done?(Maybe it's pointless) Perhaps if other people don't seem interested in ever doing anything about it either, I should just prostrate myself next time I have any dealings with them for fear of winding up dead or blind.

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My violent muse:

Man dies in hospital after Calgary police use Taser during arrest on weekend
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Another Taser Death!
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Vancouver Taser Death Tape (Video)
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Taser death by RCMP tape exposes policy of lying to public. (Video)
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CTV: RCMP using Taser on disabled man (Video)
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RCMP Pepper Spray infant (Video)
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15 Year Old Girl Punched And Pepper Sprayed By Cop (Video)
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i know it's a short post, but welcome to the club. it's nothing new in america, less than 1/2 percent of beatings or abuse of power are reported or seen. happens on a daily basis around here. it'll end one day... maybe in 2012 . lol.

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I guess America doesn't have the equivalent of Britain's Independent Police Complaints Commission. It is, as its name suggests, completely separate from the police, and can cause all kinds of grief for any cops who break the law.

American police are also heavily indoctrinated into the evils of freemasonry. I wouldn't trust anyone who admitted to being a police officer or a mason - I have no time for their filth.

This explains alot: Police brutality anyone?


Freemasonry use charities and barbeques as a public relations mechanism to distract the public whilst they secretly engage in subversive behaviours, undermining the rules of Law and taking advantage of their position within their evil network.

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Evils of freemasonry? Give it a rest. They have less sway than golf clubs.

You should try reading reputable sources about freemasonry, or perhaps just talking with some masons on the subject.

The police and unemployment agency staff in this country all have the same thing in common, they all have people in them that just love their jobs a little bit too much.

Give a monkey power and he will abuse it. Better vetting procedures for public sector job applications plz.

A lot of people will die, if they use tasers in the UK like they do here. I saw a fight break out in a restaurant I was eating in once and the police came in and tased the employee trying to break it up then another kicked him in the head, the whole time the manager was screaming, stop, stop, stop, he is one of my employees he was only trying to separate them. The the cop turned to her and threatened to tase her as well if she didn't shut up and get out of his way. This is no longer the exception, it is the rule. The exception is when the policeman acts civilized like he was raised somewhere outside of the jungle.

Haha amazing how you've drawn your conclusion from that video, I suppose you know what he was saying to the police and he was just saying that he wanted to buy them all a drink for doing such a sterling job. You only believe he was being spoken to for the reasons claimed because thats what a few tabloids have agreed to go with as their story. To say the police were there looking for a man annoying paramedics is a wild statement considering police will be all over town centre's on fridays and saturday nights anyway.
The video quite clearly shows the guy baiting the officers and obviously trying to get a rise out of them otherwise why did he take a step forward, clearly say something and then turn and run. No doubt he'd been given ample warnings and he'd decided to test the officers to the point he's ended up getting himself arrested. Yeah dont get me wrong, the officer dropping punches on him is bang out of order but to tar every police officer in the Country with the same brush because of what a 'Special Constable' did is wrong, and I also think its very irresponsible of the MSM.

I disagree, Police should be given more rights to use physical force as long as it is closely monitored and is not unneccessary. The video is clearly showing one 'special' officer using unneccessary violence and that sort of force needs to be dealt with severely. Back in the 70's and 80's when police were allowed to use more force you would see less anti social behaviour on friday and saturday nights. If you saw the van crew turn up you knew it was time to behave because they were not gonna mess about giving you 5/6 warnings, it'd be battons out and if you keep that up you'll be on the floor. I'm not saying that was neccessarilly a very ethical approach but it sure worked and it definately kept certain drunk idiots in line who today see a police van approach and see it as a challenge to test the officers approaching.

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I was about to go into a long explanation of why I came into that conclusion but then I remembered it doesn't matter. Ok so you have a guy in a video obviously walking up to 3 cops and talking and then turning and running. Obviously my conclusion is silly because the MSM could have construed it but at the same time where is your proof that the opposite is actually the truth?

Get it?

Banging his head off the road,scraping his face on the road,punching him in the face repeatedly. This is reasonable force? My F'kin ass it is. The police are trained in non violent restraint,they are trained in dealing with pissed up knobheads.There was NO NEED to do this to him. No matter how much of a twat he was being. These 3 coppers need the book thrown at them,hard. And then a couple of bricks.

I understand what your saying, everyone can draw there own conclusions from what they see in the footage, I've chosen to draw mine from body language, the state of the people involved ( one intoxicated man, three supposedly proffesionals) and similar situations that I've witnessed on various occassions. I just think its irresponsible of the MSM to use emotive language to influence people against the whole of the police force based on the actions of one over the top part time volunteer police officer.


I'm not a fan of this particular newspaper but I happened to read it yesterday and was disgusted at the language this journalist used to tell the story, quite clearly trying to influence others by the language being used. Its a perfect example of the MSM manipulating news to fit its agenda.
daily mirror

Banging someone's head into the concrete, while he is already pinned down, could be perceived in court as an attempt at murder, for which someone could serve 3 - 4 years in prison.
If you're not a police man, that is.

Interesting snippet i`ve heard from a serving friend - soldiers are `suggested` to go to town in a group to prevent such action again.

The police in Colchester would never get away with this and they know it they would get there asses handed to them in a way only known by 3 para - so maybe the manchester police need to have a chat with the colchester police how to handle soldiers off duty.

Weak.

I'm tired of all these lame posts of police brutality. Who knows what the guy said to them. Perhaps he said some racial remark to the officer who roughed him up "a lil".

These guy put thier frigging lives on the line everyday. They don't knowthis guys a soldier, and whats that anyhow, this isn't Iraq, it's the streets of England or what have you.

So thay tackle him, and the officers, bounces his head off the ground twice, but really only one good time. Then this guy bites the officer? Are you kidding me.

He deserved some batons, maybe a taze or two.

It's obvious he's struggling to move the entire time. He was drunk.

Oh my gosh did you see his "massive" injuries

Gimme a break, I get razor burn from shaving worse thyan that. This utter junk.

There's always gonna be bad apples in a bunch and real police violence, and corruption, but this here is WEAK, WEAK, WEAK.

Rodney King, and the poor kid who got the broomstick put up his *snip* . Or that other off duty cop in the train station who shot that poor kid for nothing caught on camera. Now that is Police Violence.

those guys lost thier jobs I hope, and did some hard time as well I hope.

These 3, especially the colored officer doing most of the roughing. Will likely get a weeks suspension.

Here's a tip. Don't get drunk and "gesticulate" ,and shout "lord knows what" at police, and you wont get tackled, and bumbep up a little. I hate drunk people acting stupid and tough, and I WISH this video had audio.

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I don't think you were watching the same video as us.

Also, you believe that this attack was validated by the victim making a "racial remark" to an officer? - which you just made up as a plausible excuse for the brutality.

*Example: If you brutalized someone in this manner for merely 'saying something' to you that you found insulting, no court would accept such a defense and you'd be found guilty. And rightfully so.

You have clearly misinterpreted the concept of 'self-defense' - and you have likely done it apurpose, judging from your pattern of supporting the police no matter what they have done and irregardless of the evidence presented against them.

*The following is quite disgusting, shameful really. I hope your are just pretending to be as despicable as your following comments portray you as being:



"Who knows what the guy said to them. Perhaps he said some racial remark to the officer who roughed him up "a lil". " -that justifies assault?


"Here's a tip. Don't get drunk and "gesticulate" ,and shout "lord knows what" at police, and you wont get tackled," - this justifies assault aswell?

"He deserved some batons, maybe a taze or two." - I guess he was lucky they were so nice to him.

"Gimme a break, I get razor burn from shaving worse thyan that. This utter junk. " - minimizing yet another case of police brutality, as is your wont.


I hope you never get a badge.

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