Originally posted by unnamedninja
reply to post by gormly

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My grandmother would always use the water from boiled vegetables to make gravy with instead of boiled kettle water. And I can tell you her gravy was awesome. She would say that the goodness from the vegetables went into the water, and she didn't like to waste it.

In my opinion, if something leaves the vegetable and mildly flavours the water, you are losing something from the vegetable.

If i have to cook vegetables I steam them lightly but that's all. The amount you cook a vegetable is directly proportionate to how much flavour is left in it. Overcooked has no flavour, so lightly cooked is the best balance for me at least.

Edit: oops I see that I misread your post, but I'll leave my original post intact hoping that someone will find it useful, but I will add:

Goodness, aka vitamins and such, is really only one facet of a food, there are many changes which happen to a food when you cook it, it's molecular structure changes, the juices in the food change, many things change about it. Remember cooked food is not exactly a natural thing, it sure tastes good but most foods can be eaten in a raw state without any problems.

From my own personal experience of self medicating my acid indigestion problem, cooked vegetables never did help me. I tried all kinds of diets, one of them was a baked vegetable and low meat/protein diet. It was only one night when I was pretty desperate from pain, and I had no milk or antacids, that I looked inside the fridge for something, and my gut instinct picked cauliflower. I ate it raw, and to my amazement it got rid of my acid nearly immediately.

After that, I started to take raw vegetables a lot more, and I found that I could reverse all of the effects from acidic blood (mostly just nausea and rib pain which would last all day) soon after eating raw vegetables.

So in summary, raw vegetables definitely are different to cooked, I'm not talking nutritionally, it could just be the juices inside the vegetables or something like that. There is a difference and in some situations it can be a positive difference.


[edit on 1-12-2008 by unnamedninja]

Originally posted by siree
reply to post by bloodcircle

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here is the recipe.
also something else that might help with your research, has anyone mentioned something called a sattvic diet? you should look it up.

Originally posted by Jb0311NY
reply to post by meadowfairy

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Right. Tounge in cheek is a form of symbolism. If you disagree with my humor it proved the profound effect that it reached you and there we make progress.
Thanks for giving me a whole hearted smile, it's tuff to live thinking your above someone because of life style practice's, but thanks to some on ATS other's have no problem.

When we live in a world that is based off secrecy and ignorance I choose to take the tougher path, I learn from experience, never fear the unknown, and most off all try to bring love and enlightenment to other's.

The joke you don't get makes you think the hardest, so why does life make some ponder and other's wander?

Truly I am thankful something could die for me today, we all should be. Alas in retrospect I belive murder should be Illegal, and clearly it's NOT.

So what's my point for you today Sweet Meadow Fairy?
If your programmed to only see somthing one way, all other road's cease to exist. The TV radio waves exist in the space around you, subtlely... You don't see them, only the message conveyed thru specific mediaum, the true Tongue in cheek is neither what you see or hear from either.

Love to you and your great message!