Raw food eating providing shift in conciousness....

Originally posted by Solomons
Ok first of all the human body isnt that good at getting nutrients out of foods,so you will get the exact same nutrients from fresh vs cooked vegetables,the rest you will excrete,thats a fact.So if you enjoy eating uncooked veggies good for you,but its no better nutritional wise than cooked vegetables.

Originally posted by unnamedninja
reply to post by gormly

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My grandmother would always use the water from boiled vegetables to make gravy with instead of boiled kettle water. And I can tell you her gravy was awesome. She would say that the goodness from the vegetables went into the water, and she didn't like to waste it.

In my opinion, if something leaves the vegetable and mildly flavours the water, you are losing something from the vegetable.

If i have to cook vegetables I steam them lightly but that's all. The amount you cook a vegetable is directly proportionate to how much flavour is left in it. Overcooked has no flavour, so lightly cooked is the best balance for me at least.

Edit: oops I see that I misread your post, but I'll leave my original post intact hoping that someone will find it useful, but I will add:

Goodness, aka vitamins and such, is really only one facet of a food, there are many changes which happen to a food when you cook it, it's molecular structure changes, the juices in the food change, many things change about it. Remember cooked food is not exactly a natural thing, it sure tastes good but most foods can be eaten in a raw state without any problems.

From my own personal experience of self medicating my acid indigestion problem, cooked vegetables never did help me. I tried all kinds of diets, one of them was a baked vegetable and low meat/protein diet. It was only one night when I was pretty desperate from pain, and I had no milk or antacids, that I looked inside the fridge for something, and my gut instinct picked cauliflower. I ate it raw, and to my amazement it got rid of my acid nearly immediately.

After that, I started to take raw vegetables a lot more, and I found that I could reverse all of the effects from acidic blood (mostly just nausea and rib pain which would last all day) soon after eating raw vegetables.

So in summary, raw vegetables definitely are different to cooked, I'm not talking nutritionally, it could just be the juices inside the vegetables or something like that. There is a difference and in some situations it can be a positive difference.


[edit on 1-12-2008 by unnamedninja]

Originally posted by atzmaz
Its funny I had been trying to eat really healthy over the last few years....whole foods, grains, and as much raw food as possible. After all that I go to an accupuncturist that has cured most of my ills and he says my main problem is ...get this, not eating enough meat and cutting back on my raw food intake.

LOL, just goes to show maybe there isn't ONE way for everyone!~

Originally posted by Kailassa
Meadowfairy, you have reminded me to try again to eat mainly raw food.
I did for a while and was amazed to find that if I are only fresh fruit, (which I did for 3 months,) I got none of the expected protein deficiency.
That diet made meditation quite different.

Thanks.
Starred and flagged.

Originally posted by nuffsaid420
S&F! Thanks OP. Like you answered my questions already, before I even started asking.

This has been a difficult but necessary task for myself. As my vibrational rate and consciousness increase I find I like different things. What I didn't like before, I can't get enough of now. Weird. Living in California makes eating healthy easier, but it seems everytime I start traveling I get back into this unhealthy rut. I mean come on, where am I going to find some nice raw food in the middle of winter out in po-dunk? Oh yea Wal-Mart. but I refuse to give money to a company that.... well someone got trampled just the other day there. So I get a Subway... still not quite that good. And have you ever traveled with REAL food? Since it isnt in a nice pretty package and usually in baggies they think Im some sort of criminal. "What is this?" they ask.

I know the natural progression is more and more raw foods everyday in my diet, which is really easy in CA. I am hesitant to fully switch over, as I travel a lot and just this past weekend I had to eat, junkfood. It made my stomach swing in disgust.

It is expensive.
It takes planning
It takes preparation.
It takes discipline.
Sometimes it seems impossible.
Maybe thats a sign that its something to fight for.


One more thing. My subtle energy system seems to be very attuned, mainly through a life threatening disease. Since recovery, meditation and relaxation are a must or my body runs down, a lot less now that I have my diet in balance.

Diet I have found is one of the most important things. When I got out of the hospital, I said "No more processed foods" then 2 years later, more FRESH food. And I still do that. FRESH and LOCAL being my two big concerns, as I am no vegetarian, I love sushi, and sometime a nice kobe steak. Now I am looking for more nuts,berries, and whatever else I can to keep my vibrations and energies high enough to continue my duties and work.

Originally posted by siree
reply to post by bloodcircle

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here is the recipe.
also something else that might help with your research, has anyone mentioned something called a sattvic diet? you should look it up.

Originally posted by Jb0311NY
reply to post by meadowfairy

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Right. Tounge in cheek is a form of symbolism. If you disagree with my humor it proved the profound effect that it reached you and there we make progress.
Thanks for giving me a whole hearted smile, it's tuff to live thinking your above someone because of life style practice's, but thanks to some on ATS other's have no problem.

When we live in a world that is based off secrecy and ignorance I choose to take the tougher path, I learn from experience, never fear the unknown, and most off all try to bring love and enlightenment to other's.

The joke you don't get makes you think the hardest, so why does life make some ponder and other's wander?

Truly I am thankful something could die for me today, we all should be. Alas in retrospect I belive murder should be Illegal, and clearly it's NOT.

So what's my point for you today Sweet Meadow Fairy?
If your programmed to only see somthing one way, all other road's cease to exist. The TV radio waves exist in the space around you, subtlely... You don't see them, only the message conveyed thru specific mediaum, the true Tongue in cheek is neither what you see or hear from either.

Love to you and your great message!

Originally posted by ::.mika.::
(i have read only the first page of the thread)

i see something missing there in the discussion and it is one constitution.

Without knowing oneself, one cannot know what food is best for him (this including vegan and raw food eater obviously)

from the very small knowledge i have of ayurveda and my own observations, we are all being given different, even unique, constitutions.

Therefore we all react differently to the same food and have different needs.

This being given by nature and not conditioning.

I'm not sure how to correlate ayurvedic theories with nutrients however i am intimately convinced and I know that these theories are pure consistent and priceless knowledge.

just trying to simplify the theory here :

The main axiom is that every living organism (from plant to human) is a combination of the elements airðer(vata), water&earth (kapha), fire&water(pita).

if plants of the same sort have identical properties (more or less of each of the 3 elements), human can be anything (full pita, full vata, full kapha or with 2 prominent over the third).

These are determined by our body and its characteristics :

one characteristic usually very representative :

*you are slim, can eat a lot and never get weight -> 1 vata point (and you are probably vata prominent),
*you eat not much still you make weight easily -> 1 kapha point (and you are probably kapha prominent),
*you gain weight accordingly to your diet -> 1 pita point (and you are probably pita prominent);

but that is only one caracteristic out of 50 or 60 like colour of nails, texture of the skin etc etc and you need to go through them all to have the full picture about your constitution (many questionnaires available on line-not all good though)

This ayurvedic constitution of the body has also effect on the mind and one's emotions. A pita person will be more often angry than a kapha for example, kapha famous for being very easily lazy etc etc. knowing your constitution will help you also understanding some of your emotions, how to balance them, but also other's emotions (you'll rediscover people actually in just looking at them).

The game with diet is obviously to balance our constitution with the proper food, so that body AND mind get more balanced in the process, and remain more in control.

1.learn your constitution
2.learn about which food will take down your prominent element(s), which one will boost the one needing to be boosted.
3.experiment and find your balance

You might find here some limitation with raw food, as pita (for vata, kapha and vata-kapha people) i think -but i don't know for sure- is hard to get from pure raw diet (cheese, is that raw ?).

the big conclusion is that a diet could help lead one to enlightenment and very healthy body, and the very same diet could lead another one to real bad state of, whether mind, body or both.
So instead of promoting a diet, myself would promote a "know yourself to uncover yourself your best diet".