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If God is "inherently beyond all things", and when "Any human attribute on God is preposterous" that cancels out the whole concept of love as well. Love is no less a human emotion than vengefulness, jealousy and hate.
One thing I don't get about religion, is that how some people, such as yourself, and certain denominations is that they can have faith in a God that was created in the Old testament, expanded on in the New Testament and then deny the OT origins of the whole thing and write them off as "delusional." Without that dilusion, the NT and all of its ideas would never have come into existence.
I don't see it as blasphemous or anything, just hypocritical and completely illogical.
It says very clearly in the bible in 1 Corinthians 2:5 "That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."
from your desert father Paul that you stand by. So how is it that your manly wisdom leads you to believe that the God that Jesus himself claimed to be the son of is nothing but dilusion?
And in order for the sacrifice of Jesus to actually have any relevance to anything at all, you have to accept that God is blood thirsty, and that he forgives sin through sacrifices of blood.
If you cant accept that God only forgives through the giving of blood, how can you think that Jesus’ blood being spilt meant anything at all?
Thank you for the information about The Great Schism of 1054. It isn't something I am familiar with yet, and I will check it out so I don't make a fool of myself in the future
Originally posted by dominicus
Thank you OP for a brilliant post.
I have just recently raised a similar hypothesis in the same board and did not see this post til recently.
Being a Christian myself (strictly NT, mysticism, & desert fathers) I find this amazing and makes me laugh and the impossible apologetics Xtians will come up with to defend this OT god's actions.
Getting stoned if you touch the holy things:
Whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death. Exodus 19:13
Getting stoned if you take accursed things:
Achan ... took of the accursed thing. ... And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. ... So the LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger. Joshua 7:1-26
Getting stoned if you curse or blaspheme:
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. Leviticus 24:16
Getting stoned if you're raped and don't scream:
If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city. Deuteronomy 22:23-24
Getting stoned if you're an ox and gore a human:
If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned. Exodus 21:28
Getting stoned if you marry when not a virgin:
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her ... and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: And the damsel's father shall say ... these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. ... But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die. Deuteronomy 22:13-21
Getting stoned if you worship other gods:
If there be found among you ... that ... hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them ... Then shalt thou ... tone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers ... thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 13:5-10
Getting stoned if you disobey your father:
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother ... Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 21:18-21
Getting stoned if you're a wizard or a witch:
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27
Getting stoned if you give Molech your kids:
Whosoever ... giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. Leviticus 20:2
Getting stoned if you're a sabbath breaker:
They found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. ... And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones.... And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses. Numbers 15:32-56
Getting stoned if you curse the dictator:
Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And then carry him out, and stone him, that he may die. 1 Kings 21:10
Suddenly you have to wonder if Satan hasn't just been getting a bad rap all these years. He doesn't even have a bodycount!
Originally posted by Blueangel7
I just don't get it when people have no fear of God. I really fear for you, there are always consequences to your actions. You are only listing who was killed, and you are not listing the reasons why they were killed. The reason is sin.
Originally posted by undoworship = a form of work. you're already a slave to civilization because you work for it and within it.