The American People Demand to Know: Who Sent You???

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this will give you a little insight into law review days

it took me..oh...a minute to find this...of course you people that bash obama don't care to do any research on your own, because it would end all the bash obama posts, about his...get ready for it....SECRET LIFE!!!!...

reply to post by jimmyx


Yes I read that, although the strange thing is that he was selected to be President of Harvard Review.

But never wrote a single article?

Scratch that, I found one:

www.freerepublic.com...

although for some reason he left it unsigned.

[edit on 1-12-2008 by Tinkabit]

Originally posted by Tinkabit
reply to post by The Nighthawk

 

Well, firstly I'd like you to relax a bit.

No. I REFUSE to relax. I am an Angry American.

Permit me to explain.

I am fighting against them the only way I can: by attempting to expose thier methods of control and brainwashing. I am not male, I do not own a gun, and I am at heart a coward. My only weapon is exposure through words.

Which mean absolutely Jack in regards to actually reaching a solution. If you believe in "them" then you need to realize the time for words is OVER, and only ACTION can save the day.

Racism in all forms is divisive by its very definition. In MHO the body is merely window dressing for the soul. Unless people are being opressed, it is a non-issue. However, it can be used to exicte deep fears and divide people on purpose, when played upon.

And you're playing right into that. During the entire election the Republican Party's platform was essentially "He's Different." (Read: Black.) And Lo and Behold, here you are, bringing up the very same divisive crap they did, demanding evidence that has ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED A DOZEN @$#*#&*&^%*@&* TIMES and obviously you're still not satisfied by it. So what WILL satisfy you?

I would be very interested in some actual proof that the NWO does not exist. Please explain the suspicious deaths of those who tried to inform the world of thier existance. Explain people like Cisco Wheeler, who if not in earntest, have a very active imagination. Independetly corroborated by others....ever heard of MK-Ultra? It is declassified as a fact...figure out who was behind that and you get quite the trail.

I understand not wanting to know. In many ways it is much easier that way.

It's not a matter of not wanting to know--it's a matter of wanting absolute proof, because if this is all true it is the responsibility of everyone who knows to do the right thing:

Pick up a gun.

Load it.

Find the enemy and destroy them.

But before I'd be willing to do that I want to make damn sure this isn't just someone's paranoid ramblings, and that there was truly no other way.

Your argument boils down to the premise that politics mean nothing, and that there will never be a political solution to the problems we face--and therefore, only through violence can we find the solution.

I cannot believe this. It sounds like bad fiction from the worst hack writer.

And all the while there are people, including contributors to this site, who make money "exposing" this info.

And there's no point in telling the People at large--they frankly don't care. There's more important things to worry about--like making sure they can afford to take their kids to the doctor or that they have a roof over their heads.

I am watching Obama now appoint Hillary. I like him. Can't help it. He is likeable.

Any person that gets to this level, however, makes me suspicious. No one gets there without theh Elite's blessing.

I believe the Elite were defeated on November 4th. I don't subscribe to the theory that there is no difference between parties, or that they all serve the same masters. Individuals in the party might, but overall I believe the Democratic Party truly fights for the People.

It is especially BECAUSE OF 8 years of Bush that we do not want to get into a similar quagmire. I can see we are screwed either way, whoever the candidate might be.

Then why even bother playing the game, if you believe defeat is inevitable?

I would have held out some hope for R Paul, but if he was not one of them, they would have shortly made fish food out of him.

If you think things are bad now, Paul would have had you paying for your own police protection.

You have pretty much decided what my agenda is. I understand that you take out your anger and frustration upon me. But please do not presume to know who or what I am, and what my motiviations are.

Then come right out and state them instead of dancing around.

The Elites can get away with their methods as long as people do not believe they exist. I want to awaken at least some to the fact that if they do, then this is how they operate. By causing division amonst people that need more now than ever to unite in rebuilding America. I have no political agenda as I do not even live in your country.

If the Enemy you fear truly exists then you're in danger regardless of where you live.

And frankly, I'm not happy with your titling--"The American People Demand To Know"?!? You're not even from this country--then what claim do you have to speak for "The American People"?

In the end it is selfish: I want to secure a safer world for my children. I want to make people aware of how to prevent conflict, becaue that will be our undoing.

If your Enemy exists, and you're right that political power will yield no solution, then conflict will be our only salvation.

I want to avoid conflict too.

Have some faith in something other than some spiritual authority figure.

[edit on 12/1/2008 by The Nighthawk]

reply to post by The Nighthawk


No way violence can beat them. They own the armies.

I have to believe knowledge is power.

I am sorry you are so angry.

I do not wish to cause anger.

Originally posted by Tinkabit
reply to post by The Nighthawk

 

No way violence can beat them. They own the armies.

Then use stealth and assassinate them directly. If you can't beat their armies go around them.

I have to believe knowledge is power.

Knowledge only goes so far. At some point theory must be put into practice. What do you expect all thses people you're supposedly "enlightening" to do with this knowledge?

I am sorry you are so angry.

If you were living through what I'm living through you'd be angry too.

I do not wish to cause anger.

Then don't come to a website full of people who already hate the man for "X" reason and throw baseless accusations around in order to stir up trouble. The evidence for Obama's legitimacy is overwhelming. He's one of the most thoroughly vetted political figures in history. It's only the haters and the stupid who can ignore the evidence and instead believe in unsubstantiated rumor and innuendo.

reply to post by The Nighthawk


Peace.

reply to post by Tinkabit


I went straight to the Law Review archives and found the same article.

He ruffled no feathers. He merely groomed them in an extremely cut throat environment.

Ever watch "The Paperchase" fiction based on facts at the Harvard Law Review.

thenighthawk-

you truly believe the Democratic party is fighting "for the people" ?

are you serious?

wow

delusional

or just ingnorant

reply to post by jibeho


I remeber the name, but happy to report that it was a bit B4 my time.

It is truely wild how many people purely HATE President elect Obama. They dont even know the man!

Arguing his citizenship? He's legit. If you have EVER applied for college, then you know how much info is gathered.

If you have ever paid taxes, then you know how much info is gathered.

If you have ever applied for a law degree, then you know how much info is gathered.

Geez, if you have ever bought a house, then you would know how much info is gathered.

Imagine how much info is gathered for the presidency...

Do you REALLY think that it wouldnt have come up eventually?somewhere?sometime? throughout his life? please...

Quit having this presidency ruined/destroyed/a failure, before it has even begun. I get conspiracys, but not EVERYTHING is a frigen conspiracy. Not EVERYTHING is bad.

Give the guy a chance. If he is as bad as Bush, then I will admit that i was wrong, and shouldt have voted for him. BUT, if turns out to be a good President, WILL ANY OF YOU OBAMA HATERS admit to it??????

reply to post by The Nighthawk


"During the entire election the Republican Party's platform was essentially "He's Different." (Read: Black.) And Lo and Behold, here you are, bringing up the very same divisive crap they did, demanding evidence that has ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED A DOZEN @$#*#&*&^%*@&* TIMES and obviously you're still not satisfied by it. So what WILL satisfy you? "

First off. He's half black. And half white.

Secondly, the evidence everyone wants to see, including Alan Keyes (black) is his certificate of live birth, which will tell WHERE he was born - we know he's a citizen. BUT he had that sealed. Why?

I will be satisfied if the Certificate of live birth says U.S. and if he publishes his thesis papers. Until then his views and attempts to hide his past make him appear as a radical socialist hiding something to me.

You like obama, you hate bush - we get it. I don't dislike obama but it scares me that he has done things to hide his past -

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


The only relative is a sister that I seen on tv speaking about Obama.
Is she his "real " sister? Is she is blood sister?
I find it very odd that this man has no family.
You would think they would have been on stage when he won the campaign.
He's supposed to have a brother in Kenya but has this brother ever talked on camera and confirmed he is Obama's brother?
Very, very strange.

Obama supporters are simply blind sheep. There is ZERO paper-trail on him. He is a CIA cut-out; a prop. He was bred for this from day one. Unfortunately, rather than having a successful career as a senator first, they had to fast-track him into the White House - why? I don't know, but suspect we will all know shortly, much to our detriment.

We have not seen the following:

His REAL Birth Certificate
His College Transcripts
His Passports
His Change of name documents
His College Thesis; or any papers for that matter
Any articles he wrote for the Harvard Law Review - and NO, unsigned, non-bylined articles do not count as ANYONE could have written it!
Any Legal Writs or arguments submitted for trial - Heck, find me a single case he worked for that matter!
His REAL Selective Service Registration
And the list goes on and on...

There is nothing - NOTHING on this guy! Yet the sheep continue to bleet on and on about supposed "records". PROVIDE THEM! Where are they!?!? Moreover, where is the God-given common sense to question the absence of these documents by the adoring masses? This, friends, is the result you get when you eliminate teaching logic and language in public schools - stupid, mouth-breathing sheep!

Originally posted by slicobacon
First off. He's half black. And half white.

So what? You can't deny that's the strategy used by the GOP.

Secondly, the evidence everyone wants to see, including Alan Keyes (black) is his certificate of live birth, which will tell WHERE he was born - we know he's a citizen. BUT he had that sealed. Why?

First, Alan Keyes is a whack-job who sold out his values for money. He ran against Obama for the US Senate in Illinois on a "gays, guns and Jaysus" platform and had his @$$ handed to him.

Second, where's this evidence that he sealed his records?

I did find this:
Obama's Certificate of Live Birth

Where's YOUR evidence?

Obama has been thoroughly vetted. The Democratic Party would NOT have risked the most important election in the last 50 years on a complete unknown.

I will be satisfied if the Certificate of live birth says U.S. and if he publishes his thesis papers.

Okay. Where's YOURS?

Until then his views and attempts to hide his past make him appear as a radical socialist hiding something to me.

I'M a Radical Socialist. I have nothing to hide.

You like obama, you hate bush

As should anyone with half a brain.

- we get it.

Apparently you don't.

I don't dislike obama but it scares me that he has done things to hide his past -

Again, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF? What do you think he's hiding? Be specific. Do you think the ceritificate that's been shown is a fake? What level of evidence will satisfy you? Do you want Obama to walk up to your house with the original documents in-hand and an entourage of Hawaiian officials behind him, and show them to you personally?

Chirst, people, this isn't like Area 51 in the old days when they told us "ther is no Area 51" even though we could walk right up to the gate. You're using lack of evidence as evidence in claiming he's some kind of Manchurian Candidate. You're running in circles while the GOP laughs at your foolishness.

Dance little puppet!!

reply to post by Tinkabit


The name of this thread should be, "THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DEMANDS TO KNOW: WHO SENT YOU". Because quite honestly I've met people who have lived here for a year that seem more American then 80% of the people born here.

Here. All you doubters out there, read this, look at the sources, follow the paper trail.

Barack Obama

Here's a scary thought for ya'll:

What if, just what if, he really is exactly who he says he is?

The Obama Challenge

Surely if these people accuse Obama of not releasing any information, then they'll be able to provide sources with all of the past president's relevant information.

Surely they will.

[edit on 1-12-2008 by Irish M1ck]

reply to post by The Nighthawk


Ok - I don't have proof one way or another - I am open to either position on where obama was born - do some research on his Hawaii "birth certificate" and on a "certificate of live birth" and you MAY understand the controversy. Controversy I might add that could be quelled by obama releasing hi "certificate of live birth". And no, regardless of what you have seen or heard the certificate of live birth has not been seen - it was sealed by obama. Research that one.

BUT seeing as how he won't allow this to be seen, and the fact that he has family members in Kenya and the Kenyan Ambassador saying he was in fact born in Kenya leaves more room for doubt. This isn't about bush its about what obama is hiding-

Don't fret - your radical socialist hero will be president I'm sure. But as we have seen in the past, that does not make him an honest or honorable person.

Also - fact based on wikipedia is a laugh.

reply to post by Tinkabit


The Kenyan ambassador was phoned by a US radio station. During the recording of the conversation, he said that the Kenyan birthplace of Obama was a known attraction in Kenya. Also, Obama's grandmother said she was present at his birth in Kenya. Records in Kenya and Hawaii are sealed. All Obama produced was an "extract" from Hawaii, no details. Six million dollars can buy a lot of silence.

reply to post by The Nighthawk

Wikipedia is not exactly a source with proven facts. Furthermore, look it this citation from Obama's entry:

# This page was last modified on 1 December 2008, at 17:05.

The Obama Wiki page was just modified. In fact, it has been modified virtually every day in the last several months. For all we know, anyone could have modified it, including you, which is the problem with Wikipedia.

Furthermore, I am fed up with people that use the race card, every time someone challenges them with facts. From what I can see, Tinkabit made no racist claims. Her only "sin" was challenging you to PROVE your wild claims that Obama has been fully vetted. In fact, Obama has received a free pass from the MSM ever since his initial run began.

As to his birth certificate that you claim proves he was born in Hawaii, that photocopy has been PROVEN to be a forgery:

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