Financial Disaster Will Lead to Civil Disorder in 2009 or 2010, Says Secret Citibank Memo

Yes, it does. People think that the elite don't want disorder, but people won't accept their New World Order if everything is rosy.

It's not about money when you already have it all. It's about power and control. It's all part of the plan...

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note to mod :i I wonder how much more dimensional detective could have "sensationalised" the original news title..??

This seems to have been done on purpose.. once the money starts getting into the money system.. hyperinflation will set in.. Also don't forget Saudi Arabia wants to make a new dinar for the middle east... Sort of like a "euro" once this happens... it will probaly set things in motion as all oil has to be purchased using the USD.. ... the only reason the dollar is getting stronger is because people are liquidating stocks and other assets.... when they do.. they usually go to the dollar.. this is only temporary.. Gold\silver is down because of this.. many corps \banks are dumping them on the market to raise much needed cash(usd) which further puts more artificial demand on the dollar..prepare yourselves

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is a fiat currency really worth anything??? do you really think the elite hold the usd in there reserves besides enough for short term?? The U.S dollar is a pyramid scheme that is backed by debt...its a con on the American people... The real wealth (Gold,silver,land) is being held by the elite.. and they have given us monopoly money to play with.. But they own the game and the real estate.. Most people think the nations gold is in fort knox.. check again.. it is being held by a fed bank in california. remember the usd is not backed by gold so why?.. I beleive it is there as collateral...If the U.S defaults... I would imagine the gold would be taken...



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Thanks for keeping us up to date DD, I presume such events will also be felt across the pond. I believe such events will be exacerbated by power, gas and water outages. I guess all we can do is make sure we're ready and our supplies are high... and also quietly convert our savings to gold

One of my great uncles was telling me the other night,

"All of these 'Cash for Gold' commercials. What a bunch of malarky. Don't send anyone your gold!"

He's 98 years old, and has been through enough to see what is going on.

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IT admins can easily have access to all emails and are usually viewed as a necessary evil by the high ups , if I found anything out I'd spill, unfortunately all I'm savvy too is credit card number, email passwords and future troop movements in Iraq and Africa. Useless info that can only be used by baddies... nothing for the good.

Yes I've heard of him, seen him on the TV, read his articles. I think there is a difference between making predictions and stating the obvious and I'm not sure that having served in Regans administration provides him with 'positive' credentials. Let's be honest it wasn't a golden era for economic policy or for controlling the US debt.

I must correct you and say that any admin that has made it to the position of being able to administer the mailboxes of the top dawgs at a large bank like Citigroup would have earned their position by being highly ethical and not snooping in mailboxes.

The more likely scenario is the mailbox was full from mailing attachments all over the place so the exec put the memo in a public folder share on the network. lol

In all seriousness, I would say one exec got the memo and shared it with a trusted (but lower tier) colleague and that colleague leaked only certain quotes to the reporter. It is not like anything in that memo is new news, and it is not like that changes anything either. You have to be really brainwashed (aka in the matrix) to believe that TPTB are doing their best for the greater good here. Nope, we are pwned and we know it. Game over.

The question is will they be able to keep the power after the SHTF? If so, they will own us all... but what for? More power? Certainly not more money since they print the stuff...

That is my biggest problem with all of this. I, as many of you, have been watching the events unfold in front of us for quite awhile now - almost calling the shots before they happen. Yes, the monetary system is a sham. Yes we have been a consumerist society controlled by debt (the new indentured servants - but we got toys and the perception of prosperity at the sake of working until death) all for what? What is it all for? What is the motive for TPTB?

I think they got suckered by the dollar as much as we did. They are now realizing that the inevitable has come, and it is time to put this lame horse down. We just have to stop acting powerless and start sending positive energy and become active to spread positive messages. This inevitable, cyclical and absolutely natural collapse CAN result in the rising of something much greater and better for all mankind. We just have to shed this notion that "we are all doomed" which we inherit from scripture and start writing our own scripture. Mankind has figured out the cycle and rhythm of the universe but that knowledge is just seeping into mainstream knowledge. Once that knowledge breaks the critical mass of acceptance, we will be able to 'orchestrate' events and policies to coincide with the pattern of the universe and we will be able to reach levels of greatness as never imagined.

The truth of our reality will set us all free. No shackles can hold that back, only censorship. The internet is the medium which has united global thought, and it is our tool to realize the real truth. If TPTB were that nefarious and consciously evil, they would not allow the internet to be as free as it is. They are not consciously evil, they are (for the most part) merely uninformed.

This.

There are so many doom and gloom predictions for the economy. All I know is that I went cold turkey from the Alex Jones radio feed because all it's doing is depressing people and making them terribly anxious.

I'm not saying it's intentional, but all this obsessive feeding frenzy of panic which the media has infected the public with has got to be doing something to us collectively, and it's not going to be something good.

Smile and be happy, spend time with your family, most of us I would hope have got enough food on the table. So just try and just turn the radio off if they're spreading more doom mongering. Dont feed your fear from it, although the impulse to listen and become more scared is pretty strong.

All this will blow over at some point, and if it doesn't well there isn't much we can do about it anyway.

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NYSDAN---thank you!!! I don't want to get into a long diatribe. I just want to thank you for trying to spin this thing forward a bit. I believe that the majority of ATS subscribers believe there is something bigger at play here, and that for the most part we all tend to agree that the proverbial and often overly stated "when the SHTF" actually occurs there will be a mass scramble for those who have lived with their heads in the sand.

I also like your idea that the actual PTB are not as highly organized as we make them out to be. Nor do I believe, like you are orchestrating every minute detail of the coming economic collapse. I compare it more to a Frankenstein like invention that no one at this point has a true handle on, or can accurately predict what will come. Only to state that something is likely coming.

I too like you get annoyed with the doomsdayers who relate everything to the biblical interpretation of the so called "end times". Just go to YOUTUBE and search SAINT BIRGITTA and you will get you fill of the hell and brimstone appocalyptic rhetoric. That interpretation I believe is where the majority of us so called conspiracy theorists stop. However, like you I believe that this is just the begining. In a lot of prophesy, we read that after the cataclysmic event that we all feel is coming, is an extended period of peace, prosperity, and unprecedented harmony in the world.

I think I would prefer to focus on the positives that should follow the bleak and fearful times. As they say the darkest hour comes right before the storm. If we all continue to week in and week out focus on the negatives, and claim that the sky is falling I think we tend to alienate those whom we are attempting to influence. If we keep the conversation on the "glass half full" side, I think we can win more "hearts and minds".

I also agree, if the PTB were so omnipotent, they would never allow such free discussion of their diabolical plan. Or for people to walk up with video cameras and film graves for the upcoming REX 84 plan, or for that matter let them post it to the internet, and for that matter let it stay there.

The truth is we actually do live in a free society, however we have been living in an illusionary existence. Or as Schiff has called it a "fake economy", eventually we have to pay the piper. Damn... thought I wasn't going to turn this into a long diatribe. You just inspired me to write again, as I honestly get sick of the same old "we're all screwed" posts. They take no imagination.

CHEERS!!!

I dont think gold did a thing way back in the 30's.... why are they saying its going to double from here... >?
gold is a stagnant assest. it has core value but it is expensive to move. not very portable and currency moves or flows it grows and contracts.
now take real estate for instance... no more than 3 years ago - you could basically get what you wanted for your house with little worry. now after about 16 months of turmoil, I see, value coming back into the housing market. - I say 18months from now, you will be at 76% of highest apprasial. and 5 years exceeding thoses values. so life back in real estate a miraculous recovery after a buying bienge by the banks... they are flush with cash and your house is their prize. while it is on sale... DO NOT BELIEVE THE BAIL OUT PLANS... they are only so you can have your hope dashed so you will settle even lower. do not believe the hype - hold on to your property. dont let them steal from you. make them produce the contract and then prove they put their side of the arragement, MONEY - if they created it out of thin air then well, ah ah ah they did not put up the money... ok... some mortgages where sliced and diced and they paperwork is like gone... they probably could not produce the original contract you signed... anyway, get a good attorney... and check out Jordan Maxwells video's... chow... Peace

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But, there is evidence that he has been predicting the financial problems accross the board and consistently. Even in the face of other "financial analysts" hired by said institutions he's been proven right and they wrong.

If you put him and a bunch of bankers against each other, over the past couple of years he has been right, and they have been mocking him openly, and been proven absolutely wrong.

I know who's opinion I'll trust more.

As for the OP, this is common sense.
It doesn't take an analyst to suggest that financial hardship causes civil unrest. It is inevitable.

On the news this morning they were reporting civil unrest in Turkey as a result of this financial crisis.

If the problem persists and deepens, civil unrest will spread to other nations, it's only logical that this will happen. It's not scare-mongering to have a sensible attitude and prepare for what is probable.

The only thing I hope is that the people fire their anger in the right direction. When you have people attacking the institutions truly responsible, and the people still claiming big pay for a lousy job, then it's all justified. But when they start attacking the infrastructure of the country, affecting the lives of regular innocent people, then it's out of hand and needs controlling.

TBH, I'd gladly watch the mansions of the greedy elite burn without any sympathy.

YouTube Link

I usually don't like rap... But this speaks mountains of truth..there seems to be an underground rap movement spreading truth.. Name of the rapper is immortal technique.



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reply to post by Fang

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Agreed they can't seem to get anything right, plus this is Citi bank one of the worst in the world.

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The dollar will devalue to the point that gold will be $2000, as for real estate... what a rip, the queen owns your "Free America"

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Because your uncle has been there and done that... It actually became illegal to own gold at one point.. you HAD too change it too the dollar or risk prison time... Land of the free my arse....

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might be more if the dollar crashes... ironically citi predicts gold to shoot up all the way too 2,000 by next year..

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Everyone needs to start getting into safer REAL assets.. coins are reportedly not tracked... get yourself silver and gold coins... I would make up a trust or entitiy so no one will know who it goes too... Start now..

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how exactly is GOLD a stagnant asset.....???

watch below and EDUCATE YOURSELF.. the dollar is an inflationary asset..if this is what you mean by stagnant I would rather go with stagnant

YouTube Link

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