Financial Disaster Will Lead to Civil Disorder in 2009 or 2010, Says Secret Citibank Memo, page 3
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reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 05:45 AM by thefreepatriot
reply to post by DimensionalDetective



note to mod :i I wonder how much more dimensional detective could have "sensationalised" the original news title..??

This seems to have been done on purpose.. once the money starts getting into the money system.. hyperinflation will set in.. Also don't forget Saudi Arabia wants to make a new dinar for the middle east... Sort of like a "euro" once this happens... it will probaly set things in motion as all oil has to be purchased using the USD.. ... the only reason the dollar is getting stronger is because people are liquidating stocks and other assets.... when they do.. they usually go to the dollar.. this is only temporary.. Gold\silver is down because of this.. many corps \banks are dumping them on the market to raise much needed cash(usd) which further puts more artificial demand on the dollar..prepare yourselves


reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 05:50 AM by thefreepatriot
reply to post by NuclearPaul



is a fiat currency really worth anything??? do you really think the elite hold the usd in there reserves besides enough for short term?? The U.S dollar is a pyramid scheme that is backed by debt...its a con on the American people... The real wealth (Gold,silver,land) is being held by the elite.. and they have given us monopoly money to play with.. But they own the game and the real estate.. Most people think the nations gold is in fort knox.. check again.. it is being held by a fed bank in california. remember the usd is not backed by gold so why?.. I beleive it is there as collateral...If the U.S defaults... I would imagine the gold would be taken...



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reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 06:59 AM by spitefulgod
reply to post by skeptic_al



IT admins can easily have access to all emails and are usually viewed as a necessary evil by the high ups , if I found anything out I'd spill, unfortunately all I'm savvy too is credit card number, email passwords and future troop movements in Iraq and Africa. Useless info that can only be used by baddies... nothing for the good.


reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 08:42 AM by Fang
Originally posted by DarrylGalasso
Originally posted by Fang
I shouldn't worry. They seem to have got every other forecast wrong over the last 12 months, I'm sure this one is no different.


I guess you have never heard of Peter Schiff. This guy has been right about everything in his other predictions about our economy, I would guess he will be right some more. He does have some credentials also having served in Regan's administration.

Listen to this, I believe it was recorded in 2006

www.dvorak.org...


Yes I've heard of him, seen him on the TV, read his articles. I think there is a difference between making predictions and stating the obvious and I'm not sure that having served in Regans administration provides him with 'positive' credentials. Let's be honest it wasn't a golden era for economic policy or for controlling the US debt.



reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 09:12 AM by nydsdan
Originally posted by spitefulgod
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post by skeptic_al



IT admins can easily have access to all emails and are usually viewed as a necessary evil by the high ups , if I found anything out I'd spill, unfortunately all I'm savvy too is credit card number, email passwords and future troop movements in Iraq and Africa. Useless info that can only be used by baddies... nothing for the good.


I must correct you and say that any admin that has made it to the position of being able to administer the mailboxes of the top dawgs at a large bank like Citigroup would have earned their position by being highly ethical and not snooping in mailboxes.

The more likely scenario is the mailbox was full from mailing attachments all over the place so the exec put the memo in a public folder share on the network. lol

In all seriousness, I would say one exec got the memo and shared it with a trusted (but lower tier) colleague and that colleague leaked only certain quotes to the reporter. It is not like anything in that memo is new news, and it is not like that changes anything either. You have to be really brainwashed (aka in the matrix) to believe that TPTB are doing their best for the greater good here. Nope, we are pwned and we know it. Game over.

The question is will they be able to keep the power after the SHTF? If so, they will own us all... but what for? More power? Certainly not more money since they print the stuff...

That is my biggest problem with all of this. I, as many of you, have been watching the events unfold in front of us for quite awhile now - almost calling the shots before they happen. Yes, the monetary system is a sham. Yes we have been a consumerist society controlled by debt (the new indentured servants - but we got toys and the perception of prosperity at the sake of working until death) all for what? What is it all for? What is the motive for TPTB?

I think they got suckered by the dollar as much as we did. They are now realizing that the inevitable has come, and it is time to put this lame horse down. We just have to stop acting powerless and start sending positive energy and become active to spread positive messages. This inevitable, cyclical and absolutely natural collapse CAN result in the rising of something much greater and better for all mankind. We just have to shed this notion that "we are all doomed" which we inherit from scripture and start writing our own scripture. Mankind has figured out the cycle and rhythm of the universe but that knowledge is just seeping into mainstream knowledge. Once that knowledge breaks the critical mass of acceptance, we will be able to 'orchestrate' events and policies to coincide with the pattern of the universe and we will be able to reach levels of greatness as never imagined.

The truth of our reality will set us all free. No shackles can hold that back, only censorship. The internet is the medium which has united global thought, and it is our tool to realize the real truth. If TPTB were that nefarious and consciously evil, they would not allow the internet to be as free as it is. They are not consciously evil, they are (for the most part) merely uninformed.


reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 10:01 AM by buttafuqua
reply to post by nydsdan



NYSDAN---thank you!!! I don't want to get into a long diatribe. I just want to thank you for trying to spin this thing forward a bit. I believe that the majority of ATS subscribers believe there is something bigger at play here, and that for the most part we all tend to agree that the proverbial and often overly stated "when the SHTF" actually occurs there will be a mass scramble for those who have lived with their heads in the sand.

I also like your idea that the actual PTB are not as highly organized as we make them out to be. Nor do I believe, like you are orchestrating every minute detail of the coming economic collapse. I compare it more to a Frankenstein like invention that no one at this point has a true handle on, or can accurately predict what will come. Only to state that something is likely coming.

I too like you get annoyed with the doomsdayers who relate everything to the biblical interpretation of the so called "end times". Just go to YOUTUBE and search SAINT BIRGITTA and you will get you fill of the hell and brimstone appocalyptic rhetoric. That interpretation I believe is where the majority of us so called conspiracy theorists stop. However, like you I believe that this is just the begining. In a lot of prophesy, we read that after the cataclysmic event that we all feel is coming, is an extended period of peace, prosperity, and unprecedented harmony in the world.

I think I would prefer to focus on the positives that should follow the bleak and fearful times. As they say the darkest hour comes right before the storm. If we all continue to week in and week out focus on the negatives, and claim that the sky is falling I think we tend to alienate those whom we are attempting to influence. If we keep the conversation on the "glass half full" side, I think we can win more "hearts and minds".

I also agree, if the PTB were so omnipotent, they would never allow such free discussion of their diabolical plan. Or for people to walk up with video cameras and film graves for the upcoming REX 84 plan, or for that matter let them post it to the internet, and for that matter let it stay there.

The truth is we actually do live in a free society, however we have been living in an illusionary existence. Or as Schiff has called it a "fake economy", eventually we have to pay the piper. Damn... thought I wasn't going to turn this into a long diatribe. You just inspired me to write again, as I honestly get sick of the same old "we're all screwed" posts. They take no imagination.

CHEERS!!!


reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 10:29 AM by detachedindividual
reply to post by Fang



But, there is evidence that he has been predicting the financial problems accross the board and consistently. Even in the face of other "financial analysts" hired by said institutions he's been proven right and they wrong.

If you put him and a bunch of bankers against each other, over the past couple of years he has been right, and they have been mocking him openly, and been proven absolutely wrong.

I know who's opinion I'll trust more.

As for the OP, this is common sense.
It doesn't take an analyst to suggest that financial hardship causes civil unrest. It is inevitable.

On the news this morning they were reporting civil unrest in Turkey as a result of this financial crisis.

If the problem persists and deepens, civil unrest will spread to other nations, it's only logical that this will happen. It's not scare-mongering to have a sensible attitude and prepare for what is probable.

The only thing I hope is that the people fire their anger in the right direction. When you have people attacking the institutions truly responsible, and the people still claiming big pay for a lousy job, then it's all justified. But when they start attacking the infrastructure of the country, affecting the lives of regular innocent people, then it's out of hand and needs controlling.

TBH, I'd gladly watch the mansions of the greedy elite burn without any sympathy.


reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 11:16 AM by thefreepatriot


I usually don't like rap... But this speaks mountains of truth..there seems to be an underground rap movement spreading truth.. Name of the rapper is immortal technique.



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reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 11:18 AM by Lokey13
reply to post by Fang



Agreed they can't seem to get anything right, plus this is Citi bank one of the worst in the world.



reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 11:23 AM by spitefulgod
reply to post by BornPatriot



The dollar will devalue to the point that gold will be $2000, as for real estate... what a rip, the queen owns your "Free America"


reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 11:24 AM by thefreepatriot
reply to post by Asherah



Because your uncle has been there and done that... It actually became illegal to own gold at one point.. you HAD too change it too the dollar or risk prison time... Land of the free my arse....


reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 11:25 AM by thefreepatriot
reply to post by spitefulgod



might be more if the dollar crashes... ironically citi predicts gold to shoot up all the way too 2,000 by next year..


reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 11:25 AM by thefreepatriot
reply to post by spitefulgod



Everyone needs to start getting into safer REAL assets.. coins are reportedly not tracked... get yourself silver and gold coins... I would make up a trust or entitiy so no one will know who it goes too... Start now..

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reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 11:41 AM by thefreepatriot
reply to post by BornPatriot



how exactly is GOLD a stagnant asset.....???

watch below and EDUCATE YOURSELF.. the dollar is an inflationary asset..if this is what you mean by stagnant I would rather go with stagnant





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