OK, so UFO's are REAL..now what?, page 13
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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:19 PM by Badge01
reply to post by jritzmann

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

You just had to bring up the DMT elves, didn't you.

Yes, more than one person talks about them. One guy had a few encounters with them on DMT. You can probably Google those terms and find this guy's journal.

But be aware that even this motif might be somewhat illusory and we may have a collective consciousness and once one person has such imagery it gets broadcast and then we pick up on it. (bizarre, but so are elves)

Let's say we don't have images upon which to reconstruct what 'it' is and we 'choose' elves because they are close.

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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:45 PM by jritzmann
Originally posted by Badge01
But be aware that even this motif might be somewhat illusory and we may have a collective consciousness and once one person has such imagery it gets broadcast and then we pick up on it. (bizarre, but so are elves)

Let's say we don't have images upon which to reconstruct what 'it' is and we 'choose' elves because they are close.


Hell even if it's a collective broadcast, that's still pretty astounding. However the elves McKenna speaks of are "self-transforming machine-elves" which are shaped like jeweled mechanical basketballs.

I find that highly unusual...because as an experiencer, I have seen things that seem strangely familiar to that. While not exact, it still speaks to me that there's more going on in DMT experiences than someone just trippin'.

If you've ever read about my childhood experiences you'll note that mine started around 5 yrs old, and began with a spinning white square. That square is often (but not precisely) described in psychedelics. Now the rest of it departed pretty distinctly from anything psychedelic...but the onset similarity fascinates me.

Does this anomaly have the ability to effect perception? As far as I'm concerned 100% absolutely. Does it do so through initial manipulation of the penial gland to send you into an altered state where it can effectually "drag you in"?

Again, people always try to negate the psychological. When all of reality is psychological when it gets right down to it.

So what are they. Who are they.

[edit on 4-12-2008 by jritzmann]


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 07:40 AM by Zepherian
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Well, if they decide to experience it, and I have somewhat, then by god they will get the whole story.

McKenna had a curious commen once, as he said that under DMT he shared the viewpoint of the UFO's. And in a lecture he said that around 2012 the UFO's would unveil themselves as the spirit of earth, communicating with our collective psyche. Sorry, no links and quoting off the top of my head. While I don't really buy too much into the timewave zero thing, to be it seems like there's confirmation bias going on there, it would be interesting to hear what the talking mushrooms actually told him, first hand. Which is why I've been eyeing the woods lately.

I think the reality envolves bonafide aliens up there, but they will probably turn out to be much more than the hollywood cartoon of them, as I indicated in my previous post, and as you explore in yours.


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 08:07 PM by oinkment








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reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 08:55 PM by SS,Naga
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Nice report. It is good you do not intend to use these substances in the foreseeable future: they can have deleterious lasting effects that are little suspected, even after many yrs. of ingestion, such as psychotic breakdown, higher cerebral functioning & many associated syndromes/symptoms. Of course, young people who usually do these things have little idea. They tear holes in the energetic (etheric) field, leaving one open to many unforseeable consequences.

Not receiving a degree of connect indicates a psyche not built for it, or if so, untrained. It is the reason the modern populace is the way it is: ready to enjoy the fruits of life, even if those are as yet mere thistles. The modern culture is as a child that is mightily inquisitive, but tends to break things apart, not remembering how to connect them again.

You were in the subtle realms, as real as your toes & nose (& your friends'), and had no way to direct the awareness (tool), because of no guide. I can assure you, you were being watched playing in the sandbox of awareness by mighty ethereal entities, yet barely noticed.

Since you won't be re-entering this realm again (perhaps), I strongly felt you should know. And no, I am not one that is talking upon presumatives, but the startling inner realities of direct-connect (sans drugs, which really are not needed). The ancient meso-americans used these substances to achieve interdimensional travel, and many other things that the minds of base man couldn't conceive. Humanity: short history, short life-spans, big egos, no idea.

Again, thanks. I recommend meditation at this point. Slow is better than no.

(PS - Can you imagine being able to encounter consciousnesses in the air in full daylight, fully awake, that are the size of two-story mansions? Can I say, perhaps somebody here has missed something, eh?)


reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 05:35 PM by SS,Naga
reply to post by zorgon


Many thanks, Z. Pass our best wishes to JL when you see him again; I am sure many will be happy to hear this positive update.

The world is highly enriched with JL's presence & giving. I know I have been.
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