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Originally posted by jritzmann
"State what you think they are."
I don't know.
Best guess based on experience and data available? A consciousness that has been around as long if not much longer then we have. They are a manifestation of a something, that doesn't (as we do) depend on physical reality to "exist" in the classic sense. They *can* be real, but they don't have to be.
They do, however depend somewhat on us to manifest themselves as something we can perceive, and that perception is tailored to the individual perceiving it, and current cultural views.
Originally posted by Leto
When people from one side of a state report a certain UFO and people from the other side of the state later that day make a report on that same UFO, it does not seem likely that they all could have caused the same manifestation.
Originally posted by Leto
When an air force pilot with tens of thousands of hours of logged flight time all of a sudden reports a UFO, is interviewed for hours by the military, and then told to keep quiet about it and he does so, I don't see how your theory would explain this type of case.
Originally posted by Leto
When ground radar picks up a solid object and sends a fighter jet to intercept it and the fighter jet gets a visual which agrees with the ground radar, I don't see how your theory would explain this type of case.
Originally posted by Leto
The thousands of alien abduction cases, I don't see how your theory would explain those. Abduction cases are as old as the history of UFOs themselves. The descriptions of the insides of the UFOs, of the aliens, where did these abductees get that information? Pure imagination? I don't think so.
Originally posted by Leto
Maybe, maybe there's some alien races out there that can appear to be whatever you perceive them to be, but I don't believe that accounts for the other alien races.
Originally posted by jritzmann
If it were advanced craft we made and a great weapons delivery system you don't want your enemies knowing about...you can bet you'd be told to keep your mouth shut.
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Originally posted by Leto
Air Force pilots have since the 40's reported about UFOs that can instantly reach speeds far higher than anything we have achieved today, and some of their reports were even backed up by ground radar. If those UFOs were really just craft that we made, what happened to them? Why didn't we use them in the Korean war for instance? We sure could have used them then.
Originally posted by jritzmann
The ETH is a comfortable theory, but it doesn't match the presented phenomena. This has become the common answer, the easiest scenario...however we are clearly not dealing with an easy enigma. This is one far more complex then it's given credit for.
Originally posted by Dodecahedral
Theoretical physicist reason about things like Parallel universes without having a parallel universe in front of them.
Within ufology, you have eyewitness accounts, abduction cases, trace evidence, pictures, videos and more so there's more than enough evidence to draw a conclusion based on logic.
Originally posted by Dodecahedral
To me, extraterrestrials would be a natural explanation because they would have evolved like we did.
Originally posted by Dodecahedral
Within ufology, you have eyewitness accounts, abduction cases, trace evidence, pictures, videos and more so there's more than enough evidence to draw a conclusion based on logic.