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Originally posted by azureskys
reply to post by reject
There is no need to fear God !
At least I don't fear my God as my God is not vengeful,jealous,punishing and self serving.
To bad about the scarry God that needs to be taught a lesson in behavior,morality and anger management.
[edit on 28-11-2008 by azureskys]
Originally posted by noobfun
reply to post by Bombeni
not really it all reliese on the premise there must be a god
so it trips over its self at every hurdle unless your already a believer and answers nothing other then to say i believe so it must be right
its affermataion and justification of faith nothing more
[edit on 4/12/08 by noobfun]
Originally posted by Bombeni
I'm getting another one of those mixed signals. Are you saying there is or isn't a God? If you believe there isn't a God, why do you spend any time reading and writing about it? Lots of people are 100 percent sure that Bigfoot exists; I don't, but I have no compulsion to convince the believers of that.
Originally posted by GRANDWORLDDRAMA
one more thing
WHEN YOURE GOD
YOU do what YOU want
your problem is youre not god
so youre fustrated cuz you dont get your way
too bad GOD is GOD
and if HE WANTS you dead
YOURE DEAD period!
Originally posted by Bombeni
Ok. so I am pretty sure, not positive though, that you don't believe God exists. I think. But you're doing the right thing, trying to guide us poor misled dupes back to the er, light? You really expect me to believe you are spending time in "God" threads because of someone ELSE'S needs, not your own?
Originally posted by noobfun
Originally posted by Bombeni
Ok. so I am pretty sure, not positive though, that you don't believe God exists. I think. But you're doing the right thing, trying to guide us poor misled dupes back to the er, light? You really expect me to believe you are spending time in "God" threads because of someone ELSE'S needs, not your own?
wow nice try at a reframe to make me out to be the bad guy
your pretty sure i dont believe in god? what gave it away? ill try and be more subtle next time
awww us poor misled dupes can you be any more patronising in your efforts?
do you really expect me to believe your spending time in god threads(in evolution and creationism .. my favorite hang out) for someone else needs not your own to re-affirm your own faith?
if your really that worried about someone asking questions isnt it time to be worried how strong your faith is?
fear comes from a god who punishes no god no fear
Originally posted by Bombeni
Well, if you have a concern about the strength of my faith, it could be God used our discussion to point something out to me; I'll ponder the idea.
I don't worry about people asking questions, I just wonder what is really behind it. Could it be that you have an unsettled feeling, maybe even fear, about it? If so, that would be proof that God is working on you, unwilling to give up even one of His own.
but that its self creates a paradox when jesus who came to save all blinded men from recieving his message, and the bible says god did the same
I know the last thing anyone wants to see here is scripture. And the thing is, Jesus is so completely NOT religious. It's a real paradox, the whole Jesus/Bible/Religion thing. You have to learn how to keep the latter two from from obscuring and jumbling up the very simplistic thing about Jesus, that at the end of the day, "all who believe in Him will not perish but have everlasting life."
read your bible it says numerous times god prejudges even after jesus had been and left it was said again
Originally posted by Bombeni
God does not damn men, their unforgiven sins do that. I'd say it took a pretty loving God to offer His only begotten son, who was actually God in the flesh, as a ransom for our sins. That is what I call desperation, calls to mind the woman who can lift a car off her pinned child.
God demands respect, He's God for crying out loud. But I'm telling you in no uncertain terms, God is good and merciful.
by jesus's words confdeming most of the jews to hell
He would do anything to own your soul, I'm no Bible scholar, but who knows the fear part may have been added to persuade those who respond to such tactics.
anytime
I know I used every trick in the book when my two sons were growing up, to keep them on the straight and narrow. Well I gotta go, thanks for the discussion.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
As far as the replys I have read.
Father Forgive them For WE still can't even create a single blade of grass out of nothing. Especially useing our own dirt.
Originally posted by noobfun
we can make fully synthetic virus's its not a blade of grass but they exist and they are fully functioning in what we make them to do
The molecule contained a string of 21 genes used by a harmless laboratory bacterium.
en.wikipedia.org...
In 2002 researchers at SUNY Stony Brook succeeded in synthesizing poliovirus from its chemical code, producing the world's first synthetic virus.[39] Scientists first converted poliovirus's published RNA sequence, 7741 bases long, into a DNA sequence, as DNA was easier to synthesize. Short fragments of this DNA sequence were obtained by mail-order, and assembled. The complete viral genome was then assembled by a gene synthesis company. This whole painstaking process took two years *snip*The newly minted synthetic virus was injected into PVR transgenic mice, to determine if the synthetic version was able to cause disease. The synthetic virus was able to replicate, infect, and cause paralysis or death in mice. However, the synthetic version was between 1,000 and 10,000 times less lethal than the original virus
www.washingtonpost.com...
In 2002, the German-born molecular geneticist startled the scientific world by creating the first live, fully artificial virus in the lab. It was a variation of the bug that causes polio, yet different from any virus known to nature. And Wimmer built it from scratch
Read/Write DNA: Gene
Synthesis
It’s not quite the Biblical feat described
in Genesis but if you give
Epoch Biolabs of Houston, Texas
a thousand dollars they can make
a little bit of life (an entire gene)
out of chemical dust and post their
creation to you within seven days.13
From Moscow to Montreal, Norway
to Nashville a young industry of
gene synthesis companies builds
artificial life one chemical at a time,
ships it as small sections of DNA to
labs that are pushing the limits of
what is possible in the biotech field.
cmbi.bjmu.edu.cn...
Scientists have built a virus from scratch in only two weeks. Their new technique paves the way for synthetic viruses and bacteria, but stirs concerns over biological weapons and the environment.
*snip*It is the second virus to be synthesized from commercially available ingredients.
i already am i took the last step, im just here waiting for you guys to catch up
Originally posted by Simplynoone
Noob you better be careful your reading so much of the word and getting some really great replys ....your gonna end up born again .....you may just end up seeing that light at the end of the tunnel during all of this "Studying" you have been doing ...
better sacrifice a few sheep too
Praying for ya NOOB .....