John Chang : Power of The Human Mind **VIDEO**

reply to post by TheRandom1


I think its called chi isnt it?

reply to post by liquidsmoke206


ditto.

I totally bought it until the end when I saw the dude in the 'patch. Didn't help his eye, did he? I'm joking, sorry. I haven't been witness to any experiences with that sort of mind/energy manipulation. I have met people that seem to 'know' things, though. Not saying it's not real, but there were aspects of it that seemed very 'magic show-esque'....still, I'd like to believe.

I'm pretty sure Chi was thoroughly debunked by National Geographic some time ago. Search for National Geographic debunks Chi and you will find plenty of dead youtube links.

Originally posted by slated
I'm pretty sure Chi was thoroughly debunked by National Geographic some time ago. Search for National Geographic debunks Chi and you will find plenty of dead youtube links.

Yeah, I wouldn't trust them about as much as I trust "Mythbusters", Chi might not be something that we have the technology to measure, but just because you may not know how to measure something, does not mean it does'nt exist.

One thing that must be understood is that science does not pay much attention to things like this, they research it as seriously as they do ufo's.

BTW, I think what Jackie Chan there was using is Qigong, here's some links to ebooks on Qigongish type martial art stuff:

100 Deadliest Karate Moves.pdf
A Samurai and a Zen Master and other stories.pdf
About Ki.doc
Aikido The Art Of Fighting Without Fighting.pdf
Aikido Vocabulary.doc
Amazing Martial Arts Secrets Of Fitness.pdf
Amazing Secrets Of KI.pdf
Amazing Secrets Of The Martial Arts.pdf
BaguaV1.pdf
BaguaV2.pdf
Beyond Techniques.doc
BJJ - Basics.pdf
BJJ - Roy Harris - Escape From The Si.pdf
Blood And Fists - Modern Martial Arts.pdf
Bodyguard Training.pdf
Book Of The 5 Rings.pdf
Bruce Lee - Essay On Jeet Kune.doc
Bruce Lee - Jeet Kune Do - Overview.doc
Bruce Lee - The Philosophy Of.doc
Cane Jitsu.pdf
Chiba Breathing.pdf
Chokes.pdf
Chuen, Lam Kam - Chi Kung, Way Of Power.pdf
Complete Book of Ju Jitsu.pdf
Complete Book Of Karate Weapons.pdf
Complete Book Of One Steps.pdf
Complete Book Of Wrists Locks.pdf
Conditioning For Martial Arts.pdf
Dan Inosanto - The Filipino Martial A.pdf
Dragons Touch - Weaknesses Of Human.doc
Effective Fighting.doc
End Of Injury.pdf
Erle Montaigue - How To Use T'ai Chi As A Fighting Art.pdf
Fight Dirty.pdf
Fighting Skills.doc
Fighting To Win.pdf
Getting a Strong Grip.doc
Goju Ryu Terminology.doc
Hagakure - Book of the Samurai.pd
History And Philosophy Of Wing Chun.pdf
How To Deveope A Perfect Body.pdf
How To Start And Win Any Fight.pdf
Iaido - Training.pdf
Iaido handbook.pdf
Intel - Hand-To-Hand Combat.doc
Japanese Karate Terminology.doc
Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do.doc
Katana.pdf
Knife Throwing Techniques Of The Ninja.pdf
Krav Maga - Hand Combat And Pressure Points.pdf
Krav Maga - Israeli Martial Arts.pdf
Krav Maga - The Official Israeli Self.pdf
Kung Fu - Fitness Training.pdf
Mark.S.Camp - Self Defense Book.doc
MA-Skills.Com - Escape Clinch.pdf
MA-Skills.Com - Mount And Hamme.pdf
MA-Skills.Com - Spider Guard.pdf
Mastering The Bo.pdf
Mastering The Knife.pdf
Mastering The Sai.pdf
Mastering The Staff.pdf
Mastering The Tonfa.pdf
Mastering The Yawara (Kubaton).pdf
Nerve Centers And Pressure Points.pdf
Pressure Points - Back.doc
Pressure Points - Chest.doc
Pressure Points - Head.doc
Pressure Points - Legs.doc
Punch Blocking Secrets.pdf
Qigong - Falun Gong - 2001.pdf
Qigong - Zhuan Falun - 1998.pdf
Qigong - Zhuan Falun.pdf
Qigong For Health And Vitality.pdf
Reishiki in Iaido.pdf
Ross Enamait - The Underground Guide.pdf
Ross Enamait - Warrior Workout.pdf
Roy Harris - Effective Training Methods.doc
Sambo Book.pdf
Samurai Heraldry.pdf
Secret Of KI - End Of Injury.pdf
Secrets Of The Ninja.pdf
Selfdefence For Survivalists.doc
Selfdefence Nerve Centres And Pressur.pdf
Seven Days To Self Defense.pdf
Shun Yin - Teachings In Chinese Buddhis.pdf
Soaring Crane Qigong Remedy.pdf
Staff Kata.pdf
Stretching And Flexibility.doc
Taekwondo - Ancient Wisdom.pdf
Tai Chi And The 5 Integrity.doc
Tai Chi Chuan Method Of Breathing And Ch.doc
Tai Chi Chuan.pdf
Taijiquan - 32 Sword Form.pdf
Taijiquan - 42 Movement Form.pdf
Oriental Philosophy.pdf
Taijiquan - 48 Form - Taijigua.pdf
Taijiquan - Combined Taijiquan Compet.pdf
The Bodybuilding Truth.pdf
The Four Skills Of Tai Chi Chuan.pdf
The Gracie Diet.doc
The Katana Through The Ages.pdf
The Martial Arts Guide For The.doc
The Secrets Of Jujitsu.pdf
The Text Book OF Close Combat.pdf
Thought Power.pdf
Time Out For Bullies.pdf
Tonfa Tactics.pdf
Types Of Martial Arts.doc
US Navy Seal Physical Fitness Guide.pdf
Wang Shu Chin's Taijiquan - Tai Chi C.pdf
Weapons Of The Street.pdf
Why Qigong Has A Curative Effect.pdf
Wing Chun - 116 Wing Tsun Dummy .pdf
Wing Chun Kung Fu Breathing.pdf
Wing Tsun - Dummy Techniques.pdf
Wrestling Grappling And Takedown.pdf
Xiao Hong Quan.pdf
ZEN - The Religion of the Samurai.pdf
Zen And The Martial Arts.pdf

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That's about all I got.

-Lahara

lol @ chi being debunked

reply to post by jpvskyfreak


Just think Einstein used 15 % of his brain and the average person uses less if we were able to use 100% we could do anything. We are getting there though slowly but steadily. As a martial artist meditation and chi can give u great mental clarity and super human power. I believe these r the aliens greatest technology their brain power they def use more brain power than we do but that does not make us unintelligent like i said we r not just there yet.

That was an impressive video.

The cynic in me wonders about the 'lighting LED' part, though.

When they got the LED to light, they held a back velvet backdrop behind the view, less than a foot from the LED. For better contrast, I guess.

But is there a way to light LEDs by induction, like you can do with florescent bulbs? There could have been some kind of device behind the backdrop, is what I'm saying.

Skeptic, ahoy!

reply to post by Zepherian

Although I like to keep a reserve of skepticism in all cases, I will tend to believe he is the real deal. My own experience shows that one when meditates closer to source or is under a positive energetic influence ends up with that healthy sheen you can see in the video. The mans complexion is flawless, which to me indicates an energy state. They don't make makeup that good.

THANK YOU.. for that observation. I gave you a star, just because I think this is the kind of thing people miss. I totally agree with you. Ones inner quality is expressed outwards.

I like this vid too. Once in a while I watch it again.

[edit on 30-11-2008 by CavemanDD]

[edit on 30-11-2008 by CavemanDD]

Originally posted by predisposed

What he shows is possible. however it does take at least 1-2 hours of qi gong meditation per day for many years to be able to cultivate that much internal energy.

Perhaps decades of intense meditation and under the guide of a "real" master.
If you can find one and if he is willing to take on a student.
Most Westerners don't have that much "deep desire" or reason to dedicate that much time to learn anything, let alone Qi

Originally posted by slated
I'm pretty sure Chi was thoroughly debunked by National Geographic some time ago. Search for National Geographic debunks Chi and you will find plenty of dead you tube links.

WHAT? National Geographic debunked Chi.
Wow, That's the icing on the cake for the dumbest statement yet on ATS.

Shows your using your big brain on that one.

I have some experience of this case as i also live in Indonesia. Lightning Jack as he was called in the documentary. I had a long chat with one of the cameramen a few weeks ago and Lawrence Blair, the director.

Lawrence says that LJ (John) actually saved his life because he explained that it may make his eye worse, which it did. Lawrence then went back to the Uk and had to have the eye removed as the tumour would have killed him if left any longer.

But one thing they never mentioned in the documentary is the thin wires they found on some of the moving daggers.

They still couldnt explain the Chi "shocks" though.

His final words on the case were "the jury is still out on LJ, we don't know if he is the genuine deal or not" .

So my opinion is based on the wires that he is probably a fake but a clever one. Why would he use wires if he has real power to heal etc...

How do you explain seeing the chi going through his arms then?

reply to post by vasaga


I have no idea and neither did the crew who filmed it. But if this guy had the powers he professed to, why use wires to make objects move??

And the other point I raised was why didn't they show the wires they found?

Maybe the sale of the documentary would have been weaker showing the fraudulent side of him??

Chi power is quite interesting i think.

But maybe there is an other way of explaining breaking concrete with fists.

reply to post by Apocalypse69


I don't know. Maybe the wires act as conductors or something. I have no idea. Could be a trick, but i doubt it.

reply to post by TheRandom1


Are all those books for free download?

reply to post by jpvskyfreak
I have a friend that has similar abilities.He began to teach me approx 4 yrs ago.Since then we have also studied Quantum Touch which is a healing modality using this same force.It is awesome
and I would recommend either to anyone that is interested.When Jesus was touched by the woman with an issue of blood the Bible says Jesus asked who touched him because he felt "virtue" (chi) leave his body to heal the woman.I believe this is a gift we all have and can cultivate.

actually what they DID debunk on the Discovery Channels "FIGHT SCIENCE" show was that when people break bricks, ice, boards etc.. there is more going on than previously thought.

Especially with bricks, .. initially it was thought that the momentum of the first break carried through to the other bricks and broke them...

this is not true, they used scientific equipment and found that "hard-body" athletes are actually hitting with enough force to go through the entire stack, therefore it is NOT just a trick.

They also established the fact that the actual structure of the bones used (head/hands/feet) physically change and are WAY stronger than a normal humans bones.

as far as Chi gong, Chi, Qi, etc.. goes, if you don't believe it take a trip to China and speak to one of the many masters and get them to demonstrate, (preferably on you) and you'll quickly find out there is much more to it than a bunch of parlor tricks.

When you get a bunch of white-boys who "study" this stuff, even if they've been studying it for 10 years and it turns out to be "debunked" doesn't mean the 5000+ years of development is erroneous, it just means they suck at it.

The true masters don't go around showing off for cameras and people.

[edit on 12/1/2008 by PuRe EnErGy]

reply to post by PuRe EnErGy
Bill Moyers has done extensive series on this subject.Believe me its real!

Originally posted by Bnmssnit
reply to post by PuRe EnErGy

 

Bill Moyers has done extensive series on this subject.Believe me its real!

Perhaps you completely misread my post, or you're agreeing with me...

What I was saying is, just because a bunch of westerners can't get it working doesn't mean it isn't real.