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reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 06:05 PM by unknown known
reply to post by crimvelvet



How are you supposed to avoid city (tap) water when everyone everyday takes showers and have baths, there's just no way around it.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 06:31 PM by Zepherian
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Yes, I have noticed that they do tend to grow algae more, which is why I bleach out the bottles before getting the water and keep it in cool conditions and out of sunlight. If I see it's getting flat and biological entities are growing in it I just throw it out and see that as my cue to get more. But thanks for the warning.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 06:38 PM by crimvelvet
reply to post by RobertPaulsim


Brizal seems to be in line with WTO and the EU. This is the info I have on Brazil. My focus is livestock, but I hope it helps

JBS Swift company is controlled by the Batista
family. They have made a bid this year to buy out 2 of the five meat packers in the US. If they do the Brazilian government will foot part of the bill in return for 21% of the company. This make JBS Swift the biggest meat packer in the world. JBS, currently has beef operations in Brazil, Argentina, the United States, Italy and Australia. JBS wants to expand in the U.S., Australia and Europe to bolster sales in markets that restrict imports of Brazilian beef, due to foot and mouth disease.



The strictures imposed by Brussels were quite clear: only farms that fully complied with EU regulations would be able to export. The understanding in Europe was that this might take months, if not years, to meet. The Brazilian authorities suggested initially that 3,000 farms, later reduced to over 300, could meet the EU criteria. However, Brazil is now claiming that trade can resume from 106 farms.

Rob Metcalfe, of the Brazilian Beef Information Service in London, said: "This is a victory for the consumer and common sense over the protectionist campaigns of some EU farming groups that had been hailed as a major victory by Irish and Scots farming leaders. They spouted all sorts of alarmist nonsense about the dangers that Brazilian beef might pose.

"In fact, as this decision demonstrates, a number of beef producers are now able to meet EU standards and many more will follow."

Padraig Walshe, the president of the Irish Farmers Association, accused Commissioner Kyprianou of "political expediency in the absence of proper inspections by the EU food and veterinary office. He has made a mockery of food traceability standards." business.scotsman.com...






The EU plays a leading role in establishing global trade agreements in the World Trade Organisation (WTO). ec.europa.eu/agriculture/publi/capexplained/cap_en.pdf




reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 06:41 PM by crimvelvet
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We are talking about drinking city water. Not bathing in it.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 06:52 PM by crimvelvet
reply to post by Zepherian





The good news is more and more people are becoming aware of how the world works. The bad news is we're not quite there yet.


Yes, I was pleasantly surprised today. 1/3 of the people already knew about the attack on our food supply and 1/3 when told about it were outraged and wanted websites so they could look into it. The other third were still asleep. The attack on our food supply was the spring board for my awareness so I have been focusing on that tiny part of the agenda.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 07:07 PM by Zepherian
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And I thank you for it. As for me I am more of a generalist, speculating on the bigger picture of the people behind the NWO, their motivations and the whole sociology-psychology and technology of it. If I were to pick a topic to focus on, which I probably won't, I would have to say that one of the best smoking guns is chemtrails, as it's one of the easier to prove and I'm sure it will lead to other more interesting scenarios.

However, food is of course of vital importance and I commend your efforts.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 07:10 PM by Zepherian
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I still bathe in municipal water, and while I notice it's not the best for my skin, it's tolerable. Drinking it has more adverse effects than bathing in it. If I could bathe in springwater I would, but it's not viable atm. I think the acidity of tap water makes the skin go dry, but I just counter it by drinking more of the good stuff and I manage to keep the skin passable that way.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 07:21 PM by crimvelvet
reply to post by gormly



Your ignorance is showing.

One estimate is 150,000 farmers have suicided



stopped reading right there. This is why so many do not believe in the NWO theory or laugh at people lie you who post them. Its the trash reporting, the lack of truth or reality.


The GM genocide: Thousands of Indian farmers are committing suicide after using genetically modified crops By Andrew Malone Last updated at 12:48 AM on 03rd November 2008 When Prince Charles claimed thousands of Indian farmers were killing themselves after using GM crops, he was branded a scaremonger. In fact, as this chilling dispatch reveals, it's even WORSE than he feared. www.dailymail.co.uk... .html


Close to 150,000 Indian farmers committed suicide in nine years from 1997 to 2005, official data show. While farm suicides have occurred in many States, nearly two thirds of these deaths are concentrated in five States where just a third of the country's population lives. Which means that farmers' suicides occurred in those (mainly cash crop) regions with appalling intensity. www.indiatogether.org...


UPDATE: "The Indian Ministry of Agriculture [Sharad Pawar] admits to the following figures: there were 100,000 suicides by farmers between 1993 and 2003. And between 2003 and October 2006, there have been some 16,000 suicides by farmers each year. In total, between 1993 and 2006, there were around 150,000 suicide by farmers, 30 a day for 13 years" (based on statistics from the National Crime Records Bureau) www.sourcewatch.org...


Across the country in desperate pockets like this one, 17,107 farmers committed suicide in 2003, the most recent year for which government figures are available. Anecdotal reports suggest that the high rates are continuing. Though the crisis has been building for years, it presents an increasingly thorny political challenge for Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. High suicide rates and rural despair helped topple the previous government two years ago and put Mr. Singh in power. www.nytimes.com...


In the late 1980s, however, the Green Revolution began to fall apart as the chemical fertilizers rendered soil infertile. Farmers who had once diversified risk by growing as many as 30 different crops in their fields were dependent upon just one. As the quality of the soil deteriorated, they faced zero yields and an inability to pay their debts. Three years of drought beginning in 2001 further fueled the crisis. Twenty-five thousand farmers have committed suicide under these circumstances since 1997. In the state of Andhra Pradesh alone, 4,500 farmers have committed suicide in the past seven years. This does not include the number of family members of farmers who have also killed themselves. www.pbs.org...


The government of Maharashtra admits to 1,447 farm suicides in 2006 alone. And that's in only six districts of Vidharbha. www.globalresearch.ca...


I will stop there. Google gives 92,400 hits for: India farmer suicides 150000.


Are you satisfied I do not make-up lies???

[edit on 29-11-2008 by crimvelvet]


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 07:57 PM by crimvelvet
reply to post by Zepherian





However, food is of course of vital importance and I commend your efforts.


It is pure self interest. Hubby and I invested our live savings in a farm after we found you can not get a permanent job after the age of 45-50. The more I dug into the regs on farms the more horrified I became and eventually I ended up here. Hubby and I are both scientists and I use to do Quality Control in several fields including drug manufacture. I have lived and breathed ISO and FDA regs and seen first hand the pros and cons. ISO Good Manufacturing (oops) Farming Practices have NO place on a family farm they are a management tool for large industry. One size does not fit all in this case.

A hand crafter making wooden art objects in his basement does not need the same regs as a construction company building a wooden bridge across the Mississippi.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 08:01 PM by Zepherian
reply to post by crimvelvet



Well, I believe enlightened people know that self interest and communal interest are one and the same, so I still commend your efforts

The whole love and fear duality thing... your motivation will dictate the result of your efforts imho.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 08:09 PM by crimvelvet
reply to post by Zepherian



Actually acid is good for the skin it is the basic (pH) of soaps that wipes out your skin. The skin is naturally slightly acidic and this helps fight infection. Fungi especially hates acid. I have found Aspirin (an organic acid) taped over a planters wart, ground up and used for thrush in horses hooves or athletes foot is a cheap effective remedy. (Got the suggestion from a doctor)

Boy are we getting Off topic, Oh well

By the way I am not sure there is a NWO but I am sure there are some very wealthy greedy power hungry people who all talk to each other and when they do it is NOT in the best interest of us peons.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 08:27 PM by crimvelvet
reply to post by Zepherian



True. Enlightened self interest works the best. If people understand it is stupid for a manager to abuse his workers or a farmer to abuse his animals and why, decent behavior is more likely to result. As the French found out abuse can have some bad repercussions. like the guillotine. The Animal Rights attack on livestock farming does not make sense. A mistreated animals loses weight, sickens or dies, so animal abuse in farmers is usually self limiting, and generally do to ignorance With factory farms abuse means the farm become unprofitable. You will always have idiots but that is the human condition. Now a days no one farms unless they love it.



reply posted on 29-11-2008 @ 07:25 AM by stumason
reply to post by mystiq



None of the above is true though, is it?

How does DU "bond" with the atmosphere or more specifically, your DNA? DU dust is rarely found more than a few KM's from where it was used, so how does it spread round the world?

DU is less radioactive than natural uranium and the 4.5 Billion year half-life is an indication of how little radiation is produced, not that it is radioactive and dangerous for 4.5 Billion years.

You do understand basic science, don't you?
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