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that your willing to accept
Originally posted by spy66
A source or a God has to be real. There is no other explanation.
we could more then likley say the same to you, but probabily not the science bit as you didnt seem to touch on it
It doesn't Mather what the deniers say. They read science but they dont even understand that.
here we go again
I am going to put it simple.
now prove theres anything thats infinate
A infinite space that has no Finite cant ever have a happening,evolution or what ever you might imagine.
although the infinate would be excluded from the rules of the finate bubble of space, thats pressuming it had any natural laws
A infinite space that has no finite cant have a parallel dimension within it self that has finite. That's Impossible.
dont need to, no one to my knowledge in this conversation has said it can
Now a Finite cant ever be infinite. Look it up.
ummm what?
So a infinite space that has no Finite would be a beginning that has nothing no happening no evolution or anything.
no thats putting finite in to part of an ifinate thing
BUT......If you put a infinite amount of Finite into the Infinite space you would get one hell of a happening. Now that's creation.
ooo is this a joke .... i dont know what can put finite into a infinate space to create a happening?
What can put a Finite into a infinite space to create a happening.
great but you havnt proven anything as most every step is based on nothing but speculation and insistance
Well there has to be somehing. A source.
Originally posted by noobfun
the purple cookie monster of doom
dropping crumbs form his favorite cookie which formed the galaxy
Originally posted by spy66
Dude it dosent mater if there is a infinite amount of possibilities. There would still, Only be one source to begin with.
but finite can contain finite
Why dose anything need to be infinite. Well everything needs a place to be. Thats common senss
Originally posted by noobfun
Originally posted by spy66
Dude it dosent mater if there is a infinite amount of possibilities. There would still, Only be one source to begin with.
yes but that doesnt neccessarily mean that source is its self eternal or omnipotent or intelligent infact theres no way to place any charachteristics or descriptives to it until we found out what that source was
it just means there was a thing, probabily
but finite can contain finite
Why dose anything need to be infinite. Well everything needs a place to be. Thats common senss
we could be in an eternal chain of finite states
you keep insisnting it must have qualities it doesnt neccesarily have to have
say it with me, "we simply dont honestly know" so pretending its a deity of any sort is currently pointless as it could be any possible deity including ones we dont know about or it could be a natural phenomena or a collision of brain worlds or one of a billion other possabilities
some how i dought we are
Originally posted by spy66
Now your getting some where.
God is just the element. And yes we dont know what that element is. But we have given IT a name.
yes it can finally it seems you are making progress
And Yes Finite can contain and make other finite things.
last eternally yes possably, but not be eternal
And finite can make something that can last eternaly.
finite things exist in a state of finite
But only within and only within the space of the Infinite. Or it would have no place to be.
Originally posted by spy66
I know its hard
So the steps would be something like in this order.
(1) A infinite source (2) Finite. (3) A creation.
Originally posted by spy66
Well the proff is: Finite cant exist with out a infinite space. That is the proff.