Originally posted by badmedia
In the eyes of god, the universe is static. As he is all knowing and omnipotent, there is nothing he doesn't know. As such, time does not exist,
there is nothing that changes.
Take a movie film. Spread it out from end to end. If you were looking at the entire movie at once spread out, then that is how god sees the
universe, static and without motion or time.
I'm positive you have to have some evidence, scriptural or otherwise for this outlandish theory? Or is this what we call apologetics.
is christianity getting backed into a corner so tightly that they have to start fabricating theories about the existence of the universe to fit their
Free will - Do the tracks free the train or enslave the train? The answer is the tracks will only provide the illusion of freedom. As soon as the
train decides to go in a direction outside the tracks, he will soon realize he is not free. This is kind of how things work in the world now, you
think you are free - until you try to do something that tracks are not provided for.
I beg to differ... I can do absolutely anything that I put my mind to, as long as it is possible within the realm of physics, and is something that
doesn't rely on others to assist... anything...
I just have to make sure I'm prepared to live with the consequences.
The only way for free will to exist is for every single possibility to be available. All possibilities. No defined tracks. Surely god is not
limited in consciousness to only allow for a single film strip.
Nope, dimensions are limited (by current physics) to 11 though... maybe 12...
does this mean that i'm only allowed 12 different variations?
The universe is not a single film strip. It is film strip next to film strip, next to film strip. In our limited perspectives, to us it fills like
a single strip. From our perspective, time is linear. We sit in our single dimension always.
Wrong again... Physics states we reside in all dimensions at once. We only see in a 4 dimentional sense...
besides.. if we're all in one dimension... why don't friends/family pop out of existence in our dimension when they make a decision that would
remove them from our dimension?
But, you actually change dimensions all the time. Every new frame of reality you see is actually the next dimension. What decides that next
frame is based on the choices you make, which are based on the understandings you have, as well as intent. This is easy to see on a small scale.
You got your ideas on how dimensions work from watching Sci-fi movies didn't you? Quantum leap? something of the sort... ooooh I know... sliders
Go read some quantum before you try and discuss quantum.
3d is 2d stacked, 4d is 3d stacked and so on.
wow, just wow... this is false... completely... 2D only has... 2 dimensions... and lacks the third... you can stack 2D on top of each other all day
long... and never achieve a third dimension.
Seriously dude, do some basic study before you try this stuff... you might injure yourself.
It is your consciousness which moves, not the universe(static). Your consciousness, the state of being, is part of god - the observer(John 14:20).
This much should be obvious to people as they talk of what happens to "you" after death when you are no longer in your body.
Ahhhh I get it now... so your friends/relatives don't pop out of dimensions... their consciousness does, and they become a shill of a human?
This is where you should read up a little bit on the nature of consciousness... its a fascinating topic... but obviously misunderstood often.
Speaking of forgiven, the way you ask for forgiveness is you understand why you were wrong, and then no longer do it again. At which point
you will no longer sow the sin, and thus no longer reap it.
By this theory, IF I die, and there is a magic man asking me WTF, I can understand why I was wrong, repent and be forgiven!
No need to undergo all the dogma and rhetoric!
[edit on 27-11-2008 by nj2day]