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Well... my opinion bout ATS, and you can see I dont post much and mostly log in anon because I keep forgetting my username (:lol, is... the irony feeling I have when I see more skepticals in here than in any other forum.

While that is not the problem, the problem is when ppl post "BS! PICTURE OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN" or "YOU'RE FULL OF IT". That I dont agree.

As said, if you see a thread, and read it and you dont agree or dont believe it, if the subject doesnt interest you or the thread is "stupid" according to your beliefs, well, just dont reply.

I've been around ATS for AGES with different usernames and mostly anon and if for instance I see a thread called "Reptilian Girlfriend" "Yesterday I dreamed I was being kidnapped by reptians and one used a metal thing in my genitals to extract my semen for study, then when I woke up I had MARKS and when I checked them they seemed like teethmarks and went to compare it and they were my girlfriends teeth, so I broke up with that reptian btch" ok... so I laugh alone, but I dont bother to post, most of all out of respect for the person that posted because I dont really know if he really believes in it, and second because I really dont feel the need to post something like "OMG YOU'RE SO FULL OF IT".

Respect other ppl and other's beliefs - it doesnt hurt, really.

I struggle to answer this post because the OP has worded it to a degree where any critisizm makes one sound like an ass.

But since I have never shied away from being an ass.. here goes.

Denying Ignorance is a two way street, it means not only to pull your head out of the sand and look at the world around you with open eyes but also to realize physical and scientific limitations of what you are seeing.

Getting your panties in a bunch because someone says an engine cannot run on water is being ignorant to the world around you.
(just an example, I am not focusing on this)

It is easy to say one cannot know all the possibilities so one should not be quick to judge. Like maybe someday an engine will run on water.

But using that logic can also give rise to complete ignorance of science and rampant disinformation. if there were no one to counter the unfounded and unscientific arguments on ATS and it grew and grew as unchallenged fact we would all be living in a world where nothing was ever proven.

Sometimes skeptics act like children, but more often it is the other way around, with non sceintists claiming things or believing in things based on nothing more than hope and faith and when they canot back up their claims they get upset that someone calls them out.

Can you say someday an engine might be able to run on water?
Yes, you can say it... but you'd be ignorant to todays sceince and beholden to an unproven faith. Wouldn't I be just as justified under that logic that engines could someday run on dirt and day dreams?

not wanting to persist on this angle but its a such a good one...

If someone posts a thread here about running an engine on water, there will be naysayers and rightfully so, because every single time someone makes the claim, the claimant either lacks any evidence, or is an outright fraud. This goes for many of the topics where people get all flustered and call each other names.

Based on the science we know today and the rules of physics and nature an engine cannot run on water (unchanged and by itself).

The believers really ned to either grow a pair or start posting some evidence to back up certain claims at the same time some skeptics need to just chill a bit.

There is a huge gap between philosophically possible, theoretically possible, technically possible, and actually possible.

philosophically, the person behind me isn't there because I can't perceive him, technically, through quantum uncertainty, he may not be behind me becuase I am not observing him. Actually, he is behind me becuase he just shot me in the back.

Theoretically, there is a single right root size 12 1/2 nike air jordan floating somewhere in space. actually? there most likely isn't.

Its also the usual logical folly that people fall into that things exist until they do not. To say they do not until they can be proven they do is the same folly. There is a mix in between which is where the uncertainty principle comes in, but jus tbecuase there is a 0.0000000000000000000000001% chance it _may_ happen, doesn't mean it will, ever, during the entire existence of this universe.

Originally posted by CoffinFeeder
There is a huge gap between philosophically possible, theoretically possible, technically possible, and actually possible.

actually possible?
where do aliens fall in?
either way I think this thread was more towards proving impossibility rather than proving possibility. Its the arrogance of so many members to denounce possibility (i'm guilty of it).

I agree hole-heartedly with the OP. Personally, I have nevver insulted or flamed anyone for a comment. At most I would ask for a further expanation on a point, or ofer a counter point. ATS members as a whole need to straiten out.

[edit on 30-11-2008 by Kiltedninja]

A post about other posts whose posters post ignorant things.
I like it.

Well. Here's my coffee cup's worth:

As a very skeptical person, I generally require proof. If you cannot offer proof I won't immediately be like " F* you and your lack of proof"
I'll keep an open mind about it, wait for some sort of evidence (for or against) to appear, and go by said evidence.

I BELIEVE that all people should do that, many people I have seen do that, but others are on either side of the extremes, People who will not believe you unless you off 128435435 pieces of evidence, all from reliable sources, none of which are even living in the same city. Then you have the people who will believe you if you simply claim something.