Truth About Semi-Auto Firearms: The "Assault Weapons" Myth , page 1
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Topic started on 26-11-2008 @ 08:53 AM by warrenb

Officer Leroy Pyle debunks myths about semi-autos. He uses demonstrations with live firearms and congressional testimony by DEA, ATF, and FBI agents to show what the truth really is.


this should help clear up some misconceptions for those not familiar with guns.



[edit on 26-11-2008 by warrenb]


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 10:00 AM by warrenb



reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 10:12 AM by ZindoDoone
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Hey, how did you get that picture of my living room????? Seriously though, The amount of total ignorance in the brains of the talking heads on news shows is ridiculous. How many times have you heard some pretty, stupid, talking head refer to a firearm as a Semi-Auto machine gun????

Zindo


reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 08:48 AM by projectvxn
I'd like to say first and foremost that I am what many conservatives would label as a "Liberal" or "Lefty" kinda guy. I know that alot of the gun legislation that has been passed or proposed comes from liberal reactionaries and often they distort the truth about what it is they are railing against.

I am also a gun owner and a well trained marksman. I have a few different weapons in semi auto and bolt action. I enjoy shooting my weapons and imparting knowledge of weapons to those who are curious or misinformed, which, unfortunately, is the bulk majority of liberal America, and those in between who are just subject to media slant and ignorance. In many cases the two are interchangeable.

I know a few liberals that are like minded believing as I do that an armed population is a safe population, and it is my goal to influence the liberal way of thinking as far as guns are concerned for the good of America and it's security in the future. I also believe that in trying times the gun of any style can be very useful in hunting for food. In many cases around America hunting is the ONLY source of food.

I occasionally hunt with an AR 15 semi auto because it is a very comfortable rifle. It is very ergonomic and well balanced and that is the advantage of the so-called "Assault" style cosmetic shell around the action. Otherwise it is no different than my .270 semi-auto hunting rifle with exception, of course, of the caliber and other minor things like rifling and barrel length.

Believe me I wish more people knew this. But if we in Nevada, for instance, did what California does, anything with a thumb hole grip or pistol grip could be an assault rifle no matter the technology involved. This is the kinda crap we have to avoid because that is heavily unconstitutional.

The problem with public policy is that it is informed by reactionary propaganda on both sides rather than facts and figures. The aesthetics of a firearm will not matter to a criminal. If you ban pistol grip semi-auto weapons then they will just switch to hunting rifles with the same technology and maybe even modify those with new, custom stocks which is NOT a difficult thing to do if you can work wood. I'm glad that this is a message coming from a police officer. I always ask people how they would feel if only the cops and criminals had guns, and none can fathom the crime rate...You only have to look at California's more populated areas to see the result of stringent gun laws. Same with DC and NY. No body ever takes this into consideration, especially not on the left and it is one of those things that I hate from any political ideology.

The refusal to analyze the data, ALL THE DATA, is a problem that plagues both ends of the legislative spectrum. If we are ever to effectively apply and enforce responsible public policy then this kinda crap needs to stop and we must demand that our elected legislators and representatives are fully aware of the facts before allowing them to pass any legislation restricting Constitutional freedoms.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 09:59 AM by beavertrapperak
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The last 30 seconds were the best part. You can buy blue helmets on e-bay, I hear they make good targets.



reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 11:53 PM by EyesWideShut
Originally posted by beavertrapperak
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The last 30 seconds were the best part. You can buy blue helmets on e-bay, I hear they make good targets.


Hey Beav , I was just trying to impart info without my slight twist... But I WON'T give my feelings on it... I'm sure u get my drift


reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 12:36 AM by dooper
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I would suggest that full auto weapons are 1) lots of fun, and 2) the bad guys have them. In fact, civilians should always have the weapons of the military. They are not illegal, but they make it a bit expensive to own with restrictions of number produced and available and the burdensome taxation.

More to the point, in combat, the serious shooter can do more damage firing controlled shots on semi-automatic.

But it sure is fun to make a lot of noise quickly!


reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 04:59 PM by glimmerman
Better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.

Why Am I Armed?

My grandfather once said to me, “Son, there comes a time in every mans life when he stops bustin’ knuckles and starts bustin’ caps and usually it’s when he becomes too old to take an *** whoopin’.”

I don’t carry a gun to kill I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

I don’t carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m paranoid. I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m evil. I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.

I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m angry. I carry a gun so that I don’t have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.

I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m a cowboy. I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.

I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.

I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

I don’t carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.

Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves. Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.

Personally, I carry a gun because I’m too young to die and too old to take an *** whoopin’.

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