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Topic started on 26-11-2008 @ 06:39 AM by czacza

crisis in Russia - war is coming


www.economist.com
Russia’s economic growth will become a lot more dependent on foreign investments. The optimistic scenario is that Russia’s economic needs will tame its hostility towards the West and that the political system created by Mr Putin and inherited by Mr Medvedev will become more flexible. The war in Georgia makes this scenario less likely than it would have been a year ago. Instead, the self-sustained logic of the Putin regime suggests that Russia will continue to search for enemies both outside the country and within. This may mean more hostile rhetoric and possibly actions in the former Soviet republics which Russia considers its own sphere of influence.
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reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 07:00 AM by czacza
reply to post by jibeho



well my friend I know what you talking about. I am from Poland and know that when Russia gets poor it gets also agressive.

but I really belive that the first move can come also from Israel or India or Pakistan. the problem right now is that the rest of the world powers will be happy to join to let people focus on another issues than the economie. greed - it is all about. people will be on the war while their money will be taken. and for that cash they will finance the NWO.

the country to be really in troubles first will be probably the one to start the whole party. but which one is it going to be? I know taht in Russia only last month was taken from the banks almost the 10% of the savings. but US is going down faster I belive.


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 07:25 AM by czacza
reply to post by detachedindividual



according to the poor information about the NWO plans we can only see one goal of that coming. it is to lower the population on earth to the number around 500 mln. it is what is belived to be the optimal number of NWO citizens. see link:

www.radioliberty.com...


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 07:39 AM by czacza
reply to post by Trayen11



I prefer that mother nature will deal with it. in that case each one of us has more less the same chances. when it will be NWO, only the choosen by some dark power will do. and it might be the evil who will run the earth afterall....


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 07:41 AM by Trayen11
reply to post by czacza



Well speaking purley for myself I have never been one to buy into the NWO, NAU theories. I have researched and looking into things as much as possible with the spare time I have, and I just cant see any actuall solid prrof that either will ever take shape.

Myself I believe more that the earth itself will cause something to fix the problems us humans have done to her.

Never underestimate mother nature, sooner or later she will have enough


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 07:46 AM by DrumsRfun
reply to post by Trayen11



Hey dude, I am from Ontario as well and I hate to admit it but Harper signed the NAU bill thingamadooey.This might actually happen.
Their either tightening the beltstraps on us or they are gonna help the economy.
We shall see.
P.S. Go Sens go!!!!



reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 08:03 AM by czacza
reply to post by hinky



you are completly right. the war will not solve the problem. especially in Russia. and it is not why I belive they would start with it. the Russia by giving all the possible resourses on the sale will dump the prices and in fact will loose double. the goal of war is to put people some levels down so after all they will be nothing more but happy for saving their lives. no more thinking of new cars or bigger houses or bank accounts. no riots, no hopes and no claims. sheeps all over.

and someone will be a winner in economical point of view as well. the wars in the past gave always a lot of opportiunities for some to get the gold mine.


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 08:14 AM by RFBurns
There would be no need for a world wide population control scheme or some other 2/3 wipeout so the world can contine scenario had government and all of the participating world's space programs had done the right thing back in the day and continued to reach outward into the solar system.

With all of the elements and resources out there to sustain humanity for the next billion years, and had the initiative and drive by the people had kept up and presisted on reaching for the stars, the human race would be spread out and there wouldnt be all this rediculous wars over oil that no matter who wins the war, will run out, and there would be so much more industry, jobs, wealth, technology, freedom, advances, so many things that would make the notion of some plan to control and reduce population, an idea that would not even be considered because there would be no reason to do such a thing, nor would there be conflicts over territory because space is very big, plenty of room out there for each individual on this planet to have their own planet!

But NOOOO.....money and power/control freaks decided to divert the human destiny to this mess the world is in now.

What does the public want out of all this eh? Do any of you realize that the power is truely within the public domain? Well it is. Instead of cowering in a corner and crying about collapse this and NWO that, why dont the people of this planet begin to demand, not beg, DEMAND the changes that will really change humanity's destiny!

And it aint going to be found in more holes in the ground for oil either!!! So dont even go there with that stupid idea!

Suggestions are welcome. But frankly its quite simple. Write your elected officials, go to their offices, talk to them, call them, email them. Be presistant, be diligent, and be civilized about it.

The opportunity to make the change doesnt reside in some over glamoured individual thrusted up into the seat of power as president, the real change MUST begin with each and everyone of us.

Being an armchair loafer munching on chips and banging away at a keyboard all day and all night isnt going to solve anything and certianly wont help this new elected individual to bring about the change that really should take place.

As he stated in the victory speech...."It will take ALL of us to make the change happen".

It doesnt take a slide rule to understand that.


Cheers!!!!





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reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 08:27 AM by GoalPoster
While a distasteful thought, what the world really needs is something to level the playing field between countries that compete economically.

As it stands, that 'field' is tilted dramatically in favour of countries that do not have the same standard of living to which we've become accustomed.

The populus inhabiting the axis of countries comprised of China, Russia and the developing nations do not have the same standard of living as the U.S., Canada and the 'developed' nations therefore costs of production are lower there resulting in the outflow of dollars. The 'effect' of that 'cause' is the reduction in employment and thus disposable income to spend on the products manufactured abroad.

The less manufactured, the less jobs, the less use of petrochemicals (also exacerbating the problems in Russia), the less money to support the jobless . . .

It all boils down to there not being enough to go around, predominantly due to the unlevel playing field.

So . . . it is time to level the playing field and cull the herd . . . to reduce the jobless numbers, to reduce the need to manufacture, to reduce the drain on governments to support the jobless who can't afford the products and . . . you get the sense of a problem that can only get bigger and bigger until it envelopes every country on the globe.

The best way to cull the herd, level the field and create an atmosphere conducive to rebuilding the global system is . . .

Global war.

The seed have already been sown.


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 08:52 AM by czacza
reply to post by GoalPoster



this is not an easy truth about the world economies. it is not possible to make the world systems coordinated without putting all on one platform in first place. it was possible to run it for some time when the bussiness was much more real and not too complex. now you can locate the money in few seconds on any stok around the globe. it is the perfect enviroment for the speculations but makes the bussiness sooner or later impossible to go forward cause of "bad" and virtual "money" in use.

but it is also the goal for of NWO. they need one monetary system, same rules. and how I see it - it is almost a must now if only they still want to keep the global deals and trades to continue.

but I see the darkness behind this coming order ans enslavement for all of us. would it not be more funny to turn away and go back to the times where the money were coming behind the real values as products or real services?
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