Originally posted by L.I.B.
Jesus said: No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. John 3:13
This furthers my point, which says that everything in the world descends from heaven, as in "falls" from heaven..voluntarily. It is nOt heaven, but rather, derives from an antithetical concept of heaven. So, if heaven is "Christ", then what "descends" must be *anti christ*. If heaven is "Spirit and Truth" then what descends must be flesh and false. If heaven is "Paradise", then what "descends" must be "hell". And so there is a Freudian slip in the bible which says that Jesus "preached to those in hell". The last thing consciousness wants you to know is that it's world is hell, and does not exist but by the power of belief.
Heaven is the true "world", and hell is some kind of "underworld" posing as "the world". It calls itself "the universe" as if there was nothing else beside it. Ha! What a joke. What does not exist posing as reality itSelf! Ha ha! The world will end when we can learn to take a joke. Otherwise, if taken too seriously, you may find a joker in your face saying things like, "Why so serious?"
As such, Jesus was playing two diabolically opposite roles: Christ and anti-christ. Everything in the world is "he who descended from heaven", for the world is a self-concept opposed to Self [Christ, reality]. This is another way of explaining the parable of the prodigal Son. What left the Kingdom of God returns to the Kingdom of God, and only what left the Kingdom of God returns to the Kingdom of God. What leaves the Kingdom of God appears as the "son of man" and every creeping thing. What returns is the Son of God, and all that he is in reality. This is another way of saying, "What plays in Vegas stays in Vegas", er, something like that. The world is an inconsequential playground for "the gods". It is a bogus vacation from reality. Reality is satisfying, so on vacating his mind, a player just can't get no satisfaction.
Only what descends ascends. Appearances cannot ascend. Man is an appearance of what descended. So man does not ascend. Only the Son of God ascends to his Father, for man is not the son of GoD. Rather, man is the son of gOd, the concept of another mind, other than GoD's mind. It does not really exist. What does not exist cannot be incorporated within reality...it cannot be saved. This is the same as saying what goes to a masquerade party goes home...the masks stay. The mask stays where it is as it is: nowhere and nothing.
When we can accept what can and cannot be "saved"...we will be "saved". Hell cannot go to Heaven, and Heaven cannot go to hell. However, Light can shine on darkness and make it go away.
[edit on 30-12-2008 by Christ!]