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No, I figured I would start with a little water-into-wine first. Crash a few weddings.
Judgement is your "life-blood", so, your "last judgement" is the end of time.
Originally posted by L.I.B.
Ah, to help free those caught in the illusion. But what does it matter if it is all an illusion? Afterall, you said: "Christ consciousness" does not exist.
Originally posted by L.I.B.
From the way you are talking, I would think that you would have been assumed into the rainbow light as the Buddhists have been known to do, or maybe as Elijah was and then wasn't... POOF into the ineffable in the case of the former or into the upper realms as it was for the latter.
Originally posted by L.I.B.
When did "Now" occur for you? I know that is an oxymoron; humor me, okay?
I am moving toward a "now" moment as I become one with my Teacher, putting on his words as if they were mine...walking a mile in his shoes so-to-speak. Maybe that is kind of sneaky, but these sneakers feel great! Its as if I can run faster!
Originally posted by L.I.B.
reply to post by Christ!
I am moving toward a "now" moment as I become one with my Teacher, putting on his words as if they were mine...walking a mile in his shoes so-to-speak. Maybe that is kind of sneaky, but these sneakers feel great! Its as if I can run faster!
Not only that, but they are the brightest and most attractive ones, ever!
Sorry about calling you "ludicrously insane beliefs" about the Son of God. Rather, I think of you as Peter. I think of Peter as satan. Just kidding.
Peter tried to talk Jesus out of "dying". And as I have explained, unless the self-concept "dies", it cannot make way for the Lord. And if Jesus did not make way for the Lord, then he would not have fulfilled his role in the atonement...without which, none would be saved, so-to-speak. The crucifixion was not Jesus' contribution to the atonement. It was the resurrection. As the resurrection is understood correctly, it provides a basis for forgiveness. Without forgiveness, there can be no atonement of the Son of God, for greivances keep him fragmented. The resurrection says that the Son of God cannot be harmed.
If there is no harm done, then there is no basis for guilt. Guilt, then, is a false concept. In this way, an understanding of the resurrection "takes away the sins of the world".
My comments about others are comments about thoughts in my mind.
In the clearing process, I am vigilant to the fact that I have "ludicrously insane beliefs about the Son of God"...otherwise I would not be a "man". Vigilance bekons me to address false thoughts as they come up in my mind. What others think are thoughts in my mind because the world is a self-concept of "me" as I identify with Christ. As I clear those thoughts, I clear my mind.
So teaching is primarily for the teacher, that he may learn. This is the prime motive for sending apostles out to teach. It is primarily for the apostles progress in baptism.
Peter symbolizes faith in an unhealed mind. I see that you are trying...working on wisdom. My holiness blesses you! GoDspeeD.
Originally posted by L.I.B.
That's fine; you don't have to. Nor do you have to strive to figure out why Christ Jesus said "all these things will be added to you" as well as why he is speaking in present tense about those blessings.
See how easy it is for those whom you say are deceived to just go right past anything that doesn't line up with what they think?
I honestly could care less about the bible. I didn't learn from it, I still don't learn from it.
It was written specifically for those with revelations. So, really, that is truly unfortunate that you have deemed yourself either as unteachable or as already knowing it all.
Edit: Well looks like my posting is getting cut off to, guess I'll try to finish again later instead of losing another post.
That's fine; you don't have to. Nor do you have to strive to figure out why Christ Jesus said "all these things will be added to you" as well as why he is speaking in present tense about those blessings.
See how easy it is for those whom you say are deceived to just go right past anything that doesn't line up with what they think?
all these things will be added to you however is not in the present tense.
But how do you add to something if it is already present as you say?
Only on the level of time does not actually exist could you do such a thing, which you dismissed as the reason when I mentioned it earlier.
Adding and taking away are only possible in the construct of time, and time consists of past, present and future.
Originally posted by L.I.B.
Those blessings are part of what will be added, in my opinion, due to him saying all and because the above statement is within the Sermon on the Mount wherein those blessings are given.
We have a responsibility to seek first the kingdom and God's righteousness, which is obtained from repentance, and those blessings will be added to us.
Originally posted by L.I.B.
reply to post by Christ!
But, since you haven't and are still enmeshed in the illusion too, as you come alive to Christ, what kind of consciousness will you have? What kind of body will you then have? True, the labels don't matter, but just for the "illusion's" want for definition, please advise.
[edit on 27-12-2008 by L.I.B.]
Originally posted by L.I.B.
reply to post by badmedia
Hi,
But how do you add to something if it is already present as you say?
I am going to need your help in order to answer this, because...
Only on the level of time does not actually exist could you do such a thing, which you dismissed as the reason when I mentioned it earlier.
Adding and taking away are only possible in the construct of time, and time consists of past, present and future.
These two statements, to me, are contradictory; yet, you used them both to propose the "only" possible way it could work.
Perhaps it is just this head cold that is causing me not to link up the paradox that is presented and is causing your statements to confuse me. Then again, maybe there are other concepts you are thinking of that are behind each statement?
Help?
Thanking you in advance,
libby
All the limits of the Spains, and the diverse nations of the Gauls, and the haunts of the Britons — inaccessible to the Romans, but subjugated to Christ, and of the Sarmatians, and Dacians, and Germans, and Scythians, and of many remote nations, and of provinces and islands many, to us unknown, and which we can scarce enumerate? In all which places the name of the Christ who is already come reigns, as of Him before whom the gates of all cities have been opened, and to whom none are closed, before whom iron bars have been crumbled, and brazen gates opened
These islands received the beams of light - that is, the holy precepts of Christ - the true Sun, as we know, at the latter part of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, in whose time this religion was propagated without impediment and death threatened to those who interfered with its professors.
St. Philip...coming into the country of the Franks to preach, converted many to the Faith and baptized them. Working to spread Christ's word, he chose twelve from among his disciples, and sent them into Britain. Their leader, it is said, was Philip's dearest friend, Joseph of Arimathea, who buried the Lord.
There are 2 realities we are talking about here. There is the reality of man, which has time. There is also the reality of god/heaven which does not. Where as man has a limited and unique perspective on things, and where as god does not.
This goes back to when I say this - In the eyes of god, the universe is static and does not move. There is no time, there is no separation. It is like if you took a movie film and stretched it out and look at the entire film at once. When you look at that movie film, there is no time, no change, it is just static.
Enter "man". Where as the only way to view that movie with time, movement and change is to take on a limited perspective of that film. As such, rather than viewing the entire movie at once, you are only allowed to view 1 small frame of the film, and these films change from frame to frame to create "time".
And so only in the perspective of man are things able to be "added".
But how do you add to something if it is already present as you say?
i think this thread should be entitled are you a gnostic or not.
Originally posted by L.I.B.
There was a before state of being and an after state of being, wherein the beatitude "Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted" became manifested in you... as are all the mentioned blessings in the sermon manifested in this realm and are added to people.
Perhaps there is an additional problem in accepting the beatitude concerning the poor in spirit other than just the phrase "poor in spirit".
Maybe there is also a conflict of concepts in how "the kingdom of heaven" is manifested in this realm? Is there?
Jesus said that it is theirs, present tense, for this realm... that it would be added to them after they seek God's kingdom and his righteousness.
Originally posted by L.I.B.
Even though we are both aware of the different realities, just for now let us confine ourselves to the reality that we live in.
Maybe there is also a conflict of concepts in how "the kingdom of heaven" is manifested in this realm? Is there?