Study finds only 'mystery planes' produce persistant 'contrails', page 1
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Topic started on 25-11-2008 @ 02:55 PM by marsha law
The chemtrail deniers refer constantly to a handful of sites which attempt to deny the existence of chemtrails with a seemingly brand new discipline called contrail science.
Curious how this new 'science' has become so popular and well funded.
Here is one.
contrailscience.com...

I have found a study by someone who sets out to determine objectively which planes are leaving persistent 'contrails'.

He had a program which listed all flights known to the FAA system.

Strangely only the mystery flights(unknown to the FAA) created 'contrails that lasted into the range of hours.

Scroll to the bottom for the results if you don't care to read the whole thing.

www.chemtrailcentral.com...



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reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 03:19 PM by marsha law
reply to post by greeneyedleo



By identifiable they meant planes that were registered in the flight plans of the
FAA.

In other words, every flight that is not secret.


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 03:23 PM by greeneyedleo
Originally posted by marsha law
reply to
post by greeneyedleo



By identifiable they meant planes that were registered in the flight plans of the
FAA.

In other words, every flight that is not secret.


Well, if they cant get one fact straight, then there is nothing to say that their entire study is accurate.

Identifiable planes/jets DO leave persistant contrails. I have seen it dozenS of times with my own eyes. I have watched F16s, in the winter, fly over and leave a contrail and it just sits there and SLOWLY spreads out all afternoon. NO chemicals were being sprayed.

I have also driven in winter, thru one of the most remote places in the No Hemesphre - Yukon Canada and seen a commerical jets fly over and the same thing happen........very long persisant CONtrail. Over an area with ZERO population.

FACT IS: Contrails do persist when the conditions are right.


Learn some science before posting info that can easily be debunked by science


PS. The study is FLAWED and NOT accurate.

[edit on 11/25/2008 by greeneyedleo]


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 03:30 PM by marsha law
reply to post by Montana



The report I posted was not a part of what I called the new discipline of contrail science.
Sorry for the confusion.
It was someone trying to figure out which planes were leaving the hours long 'contrails'.

He couldn't figure it out because they had no flight plans registered with the FAA.
ie. secret

The well funded(or not) guys are here contrailscience.com...
hazelrigg.es.lancs.ac.uk...
cencio4.wordpress.com...


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 03:36 PM by marsha law
reply to post by greeneyedleo



He was not in Alaska. He was in Texas.
You were not doing a study and you have no idea if anything was being sprayed over you in Alaska. Probably was though.

The man doing the study simply stated that only planes which had no official FAA
sanction to be in the air left persistent 'contrails.

That's all.


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 03:40 PM by greeneyedleo
Originally posted by marsha law
reply to
post by greeneyedleo



He was not in Alaska. He was in Texas.
You were not doing a study and you have no idea if anything was being sprayed over you in Alaska. Probably was though.

The man doing the study simply stated that only planes which had no official FAA
sanction to be in the air left persistent 'contrails.

That's all.


I dont care where he was. Jets and planes fly all over the country.
I mentioned Alaska, because its darn cold there and there is always persistent contrails....due to the temps in the air. But hey dont take my anonymous word over it...take the anonymous word from a website

And I can promise you nothing was sprayed on me in Alaska I lived on a military base with pilots and their families as my neighbors! WTF would they spray chemicals on people who need to protect our country? Makes no sense. Also the air was crisp and clean ALWAYS (unless we had fires) and there was NO residue left anywhere - like pollen may leave. Also, our water and soil was tested all the time - after all, its a military base.

I know, not the answer you want. But there is ZERO proof that chemicals are being sprayed down upon us. Unless you live in an area that is spraying for bugs - but those dont leave persistent trails.


The fear of chemtrails are a result of people who dont know what is going on above them and refuse to believe what science says. There is not facts saying this or that is happening. Its all ASSUMPTION based on FEAR and the UNKNOWN.


[edit on 11/25/2008 by greeneyedleo]


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 03:47 PM by greeneyedleo
Originally posted by marsha law
reply to
post by greeneyedleo

air sample from phoenix

www.rense.com...


Seriousy? Have you not read ANYTHING written by others here who have provided evidence why there are no chemtrails??? Do you just ignore all the info posted and pick and choose what you WANT to believe?

All that stuff found on that "report" can be due to OTHER factors!! There is NO PROOF those are found as a result of planes spraying them in the air.


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 03:52 PM by Shar_Chi
reply to post by greeneyedleo


I think you've already made your point in this thread. No?


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 03:53 PM by Montana
Originally posted by marsha law

The well funded(or not) guys are here
contrailscience.com...
hazelrigg.es.lancs.ac.uk...
cencio4.wordpress.com...


Ummm, the contrail science site states that it is "ContrailScience.com is just a place where I write about contrails and science - which also includes some looking at the “chemtrails” theory, and pseudoscience."

The other two sites deal strictly with contrails, and if anything attempt to debunk chemtrails.

Please try again?

Thanks,
Montana


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 03:53 PM by greeneyedleo
Originally posted by Shar_Chi
reply to
post by greeneyedleo


I think you've already made your point in this thread. No?


Oh, im sorry MOD, I didnt see your title, nor the rules I can only post once on a thread!

Whoops! MY BAD!

...bad GEL.....


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 03:57 PM by QBSneak000
Originally posted by Shar_Chi
reply to
post by greeneyedleo


I think you've already made your point in this thread. No?


Um, isn't this what ATS and forums like it are for? to debate back and forth ideas and theories, proving and disproving ones point? I don't believe there is one thread here at ATS where members cannot argue their point back and forth.

Heck, sometimes you have to state things over and over (not thats what GEL did) to even get your point across to some of the few very ignorant and closed minded people on here.

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