Chemtrails Over Portland OR 23/11/08

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posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 01:44 PM
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I'll try that second link again www.youtube.com...




posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 01:54 PM
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I give up. If the most amazingly obvious thing in the world gets debunked then either this site is completely useless or people are mostly really stupid or are afraid to confront the truth. Not counting disinfo rats.


What happened? I thought you gave up.



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by ziggystar60
I live in Oslo, Norway. Not the biggest city on Earth, but I'm not excactly alone here. I have never seen a "chemtrail", and I have never heard anyone talk about it either in my corner of the world.


That is interesting as far as the idea of them being normal contrails.

Surely they fly planes there!!!



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 01:58 PM
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Figure of speech.
I will carry on. No comment on the placement of chemtrails in the media?
And Phage what is a city near you?



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 01:58 PM
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WWII early enough?










posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by marsha law

And Phage what is a city near you?


None of your business



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:02 PM
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The idea was to rub your nose in some evidence.
How about a state then? Province? County?



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:04 PM
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Judging by the latest skew-T diagram, the 40 knot westerly winds would blow anything in you area hundreds of miles to the east of you (thats if someone did spray something, which they didnt). Strange how conditions are perfect for contrail development to isnt it


www.rap.ucar.edu...


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posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by marsha law
reply to post by Phage
 

The idea was to rub your nose in some evidence.
How about a state then? Province? County?


Sorry, I don't take kindly to the implication that I'm a liar.



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:10 PM
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They fly planes in Hawaii too, but we almost NEVER saw any kind of trails. I can count the number of times I saw a trail over Hawaii on the fingers of one hand. If one DID form it was from a plane from Kauai after it got to altitude. Conditions just weren't right for them there.



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
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They fly planes in Hawaii too, but we almost NEVER saw any kind of trails. I can count the number of times I saw a trail over Hawaii on the fingers of one hand. If one DID form it was from a plane from Kauai after it got to altitude. Conditions just weren't right for them there.


They rarely are in the more tropical latitudes though, due to the warmer tropical upper air regions and higher tropopause. Where I live we rarely get them to, being in tropical Australia and all, but we get plenty down south



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:12 PM
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Those images pertain to internal combustion engines.
That is smoke.
I don't remember calling you a liar.
I wanted to prove that wherever you happen to live I could come up with evidence of chemtrails.
You claim you see two in a year.
So they do exist?



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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No it is NOT smoke. It's a contrail. There are eyewitness accounts from the crews that their contrails would linger so long they'd have to change their route home because of their own contrails. No engine has ever left a smoke trail that could be confused with a contrail.



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:16 PM
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I rarely even read the words from the debunkers anymore because IMO they are words, empty useless words meant to take your eye off the ball.

And no it isn't because I don't want to hear/see anything that doesn't conform to my belief system it is because I know how you guys play the game and it is irrelevant to the truth of what we who are looking for answers are attempting to discuss.

Edit to change the wording Debunkers to Deniers.

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posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:19 PM
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Good afternoon sir,
When I posted my question 3 hours ago it did elicit a response from someone in the area.
From their window this person could see 10 chemtrails.
I just stepped outside and indeed most of the morning spraying has drifted away but more are being created now.

I don't see your point.
Are you near Portland?
How can you say nothing was being sprayed?



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:21 PM
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Watch this again.
There will be a test! www.youtube.com...



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:29 PM
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I love it how whenever the word "chemtrail" pops up in a thread title, Ozweatherman has to duck in and correct someone! Especially because I agree with him! Seriously bro, do you have some kind of program that alerts you when this happens?



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by marsha law
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Those images pertain to internal combustion engines.
That is smoke.
I don't remember calling you a liar.
I wanted to prove that wherever you happen to live I could come up with evidence of chemtrails.
You claim you see two in a year.
So they do exist?


Of course contrails exist. You saw some yourself, just a while ago.



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:48 PM
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OK Mr. Phage,
Here is another example. Watch it through to the end.
How do you explain an intermittent contrail?
I'm all ears.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 03:00 PM
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Varying temperature and humidity conditions. The atmosphere is not entirely homogeneous, it can be a turbulent and varied environment.

I notice that the video actually shows a very short contrail. What's your explanation? Were they running low on chems?

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[edit on 23-11-2008 by Phage]





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