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Isa 55:1 Ho, every thirsty one, come ye to the waters, And he who hath no money, Come ye, buy and eat, yea, come, buy Without money and without price, wine and milk. (Jesus Quoted
Isa 55:2 Why do ye weigh money for that which is not bread? And your labour for that which is not for satiety? Hearken diligently unto me, and eat good, And your soul doth delight itself in fatness.
Isa 55:3 Incline your ear, and come unto me, Hear, and your soul doth live, And I make for you a covenant(passing between two pieces of flesh) age-during, The kind acts of David(Loved)--that are stedfast.
H1285
בּרית
berîyth
ber-eeth'
From H1262 (in the sense of cutting (like H1254)); a compact (because made by passing between pieces of flesh): - confederacy, [con-]feder[-ate], covenant, league.
Isa 55:4 Lo, a witness to peoples I have given him, A leader and commander to peoples.
Isa 55:5 Lo, a nation thou knowest not, thou callest, And a nation who know thee not unto thee do run, For the sake of Jehovah(Self Existent) thy God, And for the Holy(Inside) One of Israel(He will rule as God), Because He hath beautified thee(Added to the temple of the Body).
Isa 55:6 Seek ye Jehovah(Self Existent), while He is found, Call ye Him, while He is near(in your midst),
Isa 55:7 Forsake doth the wicked(deathly action) his way, And the man of iniquity(unfair) his thoughts, And he returneth to Jehovah(Self existent), and He pitieth him, And unto our God for He multiplieth to pardon.
Isa 55:8 For not My thoughts are your thoughts, Nor your ways My ways, --an affirmation of Jehovah(Self existent),
Isa 55:9 For high have the heavens been above the earth, So high have been My ways above your ways, And My thoughts above your thoughts.
Isa 55:10 For, as come down doth the shower, And the snow from the heavens, And thither returneth not, But hath watered the earth, And hath caused it to yield, and to spring up, And hath given seed to the sower, and bread to the eater,
Isa 55:11 So is My word that goeth out of My mouth, It turneth not back unto Me empty, But hath done that which I desired, And prosperously effected that for which I sent it.
Isa 55:12 For with joy ye go forth, And with peace ye are brought in, The mountains and the hills Break forth before you with singing, And all trees of the field clap the hand.
Isa 55:13 Instead of the thorn come up doth fir, Instead of the brier come up doth myrtle, And it hath been to Jehovah(self-existent) for a name, For a sign age-during--it is not cut off!
Originally posted by Incarnated
reply to post by Ryanp5555
Those that "follow Jesus" in the "christianized" religion based on the icon of "Jesus" don't follow "Jesus". They follow after a golden idol based upon the life of a man.
I am not saying all "christians" are worthless, I'm saying the title tag of calling one's self a "christian" is worthless.
I have the most of the people that call themselves "christians" know the least about the teachings or true life or message of the man. The largest majority of "Christians" believe in a religion based upon the words of their preachers of this day and their dogma.
A too large majority of "Christians" haven't even ever read the bible, nor thought about it, let alone searched out higher and deeper writings. Oh No! The Great majority of people that would call themselves a "christian" don't follow after the man jesus. Those fool themselves in the folly of following after an false Iconic "God" Golden statue based upon the life of a man long ago.
"JESUS!!!" is the new golden calf.
Originally posted by Incarnated
reply to post by The time lord
Pineapple, pancake pop!
Really the terms one inturpets are less reading with one's eyes and understanding with one's brain. Rather it seems many/most people perject meanings unto text. People say: "That Text Touched Me deep inside" but what they are really saying is that a set up biased understanding that already existed within their psychie was easy to project upon the words another used.
Thus has been my personal findings.
Originally posted by Incarnated
I'd like to point out that I didn't call Jackson the "Antichrist".
By v01i0
My bad, I apologize. But now you too see what I meant: I am so stupid that I manage to forget important things right after reading other people's posts. I of course read from your OP that you thought Jackson to be false prophet. Sorry again. But actually in the post you responded, I was again making my own opinions and IMO he can indeed be an anticrist. But yeah, I think that you are maybe more correct about it, for Michael Jackson is too much a hippie to become a real antichrist.
Now all this logic is going to be cast out the window in a moment as the face of the false prophet is about to be revealed. It's a face you all know well enough.
So if you want to mostlikely be an insider and know before all your friends who the true antichrist is watch closely the fingers of this man.
Originally posted by Incarnated
reply to post by Ryanp5555
Those that "follow Jesus" in the "christianized" religion based on the icon of "Jesus" don't follow "Jesus". They follow after a golden idol based upon the life of a man.
I am not saying all "christians" are worthless, I'm saying the title tag of calling one's self a "christian" is worthless. I have the most of the people that call themselves "christians" know the least about the teachings or true life or message of the man. The largest majority of "Christians" believe in a religion based upon the words of their preachers of this day and their dogma.
A too large majority of "Christians" haven't even ever read the bible, nor thought about it, let alone searched out higher and deeper writings. Oh No! The Great majority of people that would call themselves a "christian" don't follow after the man jesus. Those fool themselves in the folly of following after an false Iconic "God" Golden statue based upon the life of a man long ago.
"JESUS!!!" is the new golden calf.
Chris⋅tian
/ˈkrɪstʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kris-chuhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or derived from Jesus Christ or His teachings: a Christian faith.
2. of, pertaining to, believing in, or belonging to the religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ: Spain is a Christian country.
3. of or pertaining to Christians: many Christian deaths in the Crusades.
4. exhibiting a spirit proper to a follower of Jesus Christ; Christlike: She displayed true Christian charity.
5. decent; respectable: They gave him a good Christian burial.
6. human; not brutal; humane: Such behavior isn't Christian.
–noun
7. a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity.
8. a person who exemplifies in his or her life the teachings of Christ: He died like a true Christian.
9. a member of any of certain Protestant churches, as the Disciples of Christ and the Plymouth Brethren.
10. the hero of Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress.
11. a male given name.
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
reply to post by SaintlyMic
instead of saying do you honestly think that TRUE christians follow Christ blindly, etc., etc., why don't you remove the word true so it reads, do you honestly think that christians follow JC blindly, etc., etc.
Listen, whether or not they are true christians has nothing to do with this. All you have done is created 2 categories. Those who are christians (but not really into believing they just call themselves that) and those who are TRUE christians. As I stated before, a christian is someone who follows Jesus teachings. Whether or not they are false, or blind, or whatever is immaterial. If someone believes they are following Christ's teachings they are christian. Nobody is saying they are very good christians. Look, I think I'll save us all a bunch of time. You guys are confusing the meaning of a word with what the bible describes as though who will be welcomed or those who are truly Jesus' children. For the definition of the word we look at the dictionary. For those who go on to heaven and how to truly believe, and Jesus' actual teachings we look at the bible. For this debate, we look at the definition of the word:
Chris⋅tian /ˈkrɪstʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kris-chuhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or derived from Jesus Christ or His teachings: a Christian faith.
2. of, pertaining to, believing in, or belonging to the religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ: Spain is a Christian country.
3. of or pertaining to Christians: many Christian deaths in the Crusades.
4. exhibiting a spirit proper to a follower of Jesus Christ; Christlike: She displayed true Christian charity.
5. decent; respectable: They gave him a good Christian burial.
6. human; not brutal; humane: Such behavior isn't Christian.
–noun
7. a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity.
8. a person who exemplifies in his or her life the teachings of Christ: He died like a true Christian.
9. a member of any of certain Protestant churches, as the Disciples of Christ and the Plymouth Brethren.
10. the hero of Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress.
11. a male given name.
Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
To Incarnated
Just wanted to apologize for any thread derailment.
Again, sorry Incarnated
Originally posted by Zeus187
to have an antichrist, wouldnt we first need a christ?
Originally posted by Zeus187
reply to post by Incarnated
So yes we would need a "christ" first in order to have an anti-christ?
is that what you are telling me?
regardless.
there is no "christ" there never will be.
end of story, shut the book.