Obama planning WW-III and draft?, page 7
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reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 09:51 PM by dreamingtree
reply to post by Dbriefed



All I have to say about this is who is the person last week to say that their was supposed to be a draft or something similar happening this week? I've been on this site for about 6 months now and just recently created an account because I couldn't take it any longer. None of anyones predictions have yet to come true. I've seen some of the worse sources anyone can give to "prove a theory" is going to happen. The people who write this stuff on their blogging websites have psychological problems and you people who believe just about everything that involves destruction of a society or death to people are nuts. Why is it that you people would like to see nothing, but bad things occur and believe that someone is always out there to get you?


reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:00 PM by SonsOfAnarchy
reply to post by Simon_Boudreaux



Haha yea well there have been many people who have taken the draft to court during vietnam and when they used the 13 amendment have always lost so...thats outa the question.

[edit on 24-11-2008 by SonsOfAnarchy]


reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:12 PM by SonsOfAnarchy
reply to post by juveous



Well Bush didnt declare war in Iraq either now did he??


reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:21 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by dreamingtree



I've been on this site for about 6 months now and just recently created an account because I couldn't take it any longer. None of anyones predictions have yet to come true. I've seen some of the worse sources anyone can give to "prove a theory" is going to happen. The people who write this stuff on their blogging websites have psychological problems and you people who believe just about everything that involves destruction of a society or death to people are nuts. Why is it that you people would like to see nothing, but bad things occur and believe that someone is always out there to get you?


I sure can appreciate how you feel. I don't know if I would be angry though if and when people are wrong or more relieved. I have seen people make predictions in 2000 saying any month now the economy is going to tank and this is why. It didn't take months but about 7 years but they sure had the why part right!

I am sure some of the earliest Jews to leave Nazi Germany were ridiculed and some accused of 'frightening' people for no good reason as well.

History is full of some truly amazing, and unthinkable things. I would imagine that just as many people before they actually happened, as now after they have happened, didn't think they could happen or could happen again.

I do believe people all to often forget histories most important lessons by saying well "It couldn't happen here, or happen now"

I don't know about you, but I just witnessed an inexperienced politician with very little significant or tangible accomplishments in the field of writing laws and governing get elected to the President of the United States who came complete with his own symbolism flown on his airplane and plastered on his podium. The last time I saw a politician come complete with his own symbolism, and building a personality cult was Hitler.

The last time someone like Hitler came to power was during a global economic crisis.

So no, I won't rule out the very real potential for danger that represents.

Do I want it to develop into what it has a real potential to develop into?

No, I sure don't.

Is this my way of disliking someone because their skin color or political party is not my own.

No it sure isn't, I live in a city where whites are the smalles minority, and I don't vote period for either party.

I am not looking for Republicans or white people or conservatives to save me.

I am just hoping and hopefully not against hope itself the guy who just showed up to town with his own symbolism, and cult of personality isn't going to do the opposite of save me.

I think it pays to keep an open mind too all posibilities.

I think I would rather be wrong about something bad not happening, that to be wrong about something good happening that turned out to be bad.

In the first case you even though you were wrong you won, that is if you are big enough to believe that winning isn't about always being right.

In the second case if you were wrong, wow, you sure were wrong and often then its too late to do what would be right.

I believe in possitive thought and positive visualization. Let's face it though when it comes to some of histories charachters there just is not enough redeeming elements for some of them to make that a possibility in their cases.

I can't see why the future would be different especially for those who choose to conveniently and optimistically forget the past.

I don't think anyone here on ATS is carrying out the conspiracies they talk about or wishing them on anyone. If and when someone is right it won't be their fault that what ever happened, happened because of that.

Just a thought.


reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:51 PM by Mystery_Lady
reply to post by geemony



Fighting a war to save this country is one thing. Fighting a war for a terrorist government is quite another. I still believe 911 is an inside job, and that we should not be in Afghanistan or Iraq. In no way do I believe we should even consider fighting Iran. In matter of fact, this so called war we are in was not approved by Congress. It is illegal.

There is no way I will fight in a military that is fighting for a terrorist government. Fighting for a terrorist makes you a terrorist.

If the government ever gets cleaned up and we are actually fighting for the people of this nation not the government, then and only then I will fight heart and soul.


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 11:40 AM by princeofpeace
I agree wholeheartedly bro. I joined this site just to see what was going on there is SO much disinformation and flat out paranoid warnings that never come true. Its really crazy and what is crazier is that the people on here really believe the load of mess that is being spouted. Plus there is so much anti-american sentiment on here im not sure who is really the enemy.

Originally posted by dreamingtree
reply to
post by Dbriefed



All I have to say about this is who is the person last week to say that their was supposed to be a draft or something similar happening this week? I've been on this site for about 6 months now and just recently created an account because I couldn't take it any longer. None of anyones predictions have yet to come true. I've seen some of the worse sources anyone can give to "prove a theory" is going to happen. The people who write this stuff on their blogging websites have psychological problems and you people who believe just about everything that involves destruction of a society or death to people are nuts. Why is it that you people would like to see nothing, but bad things occur and believe that someone is always out there to get you?




reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 11:52 AM by EvilAxis
Originally posted by Bejing
The USA doesn’t have any money to go to War. They gave it all to the Banks and they won’t lend it back AND the only Company that has enough manufacturing plants to build the war materials, GM, and they are going out of business...


A somewhat cock-eyed analysis. The USA didn't have the money to go to war in Iraq or Afghanistan but the Banks were glad to lend it.

The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More Washington Post, Sunday, March 9, 2008

The decision to go to war in the final analysis is not made by the government but by the power elite - the puppet-masters who pull the strings of the central banks, the military-industrial complex and their appointed political henchmen.

They will try to take us to war if they see a financial imperative in doing so. America's debt and lack of domestic industry to climb out of it might be one such "imperative". Recall that WWII arose during a period of worldwide economic depression.


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 12:09 PM by orangetom1999
reply to post by Evil Axis




Good point about the economic depression before WW2.

Also I think the title of this thread is misleading as people were talking about re instituting the draft before Obama even put his hat in the ring for the presidency. I can remember that far back.

I have no doubt that when the time comes Obama will carry on the draft song. I just don't think it was or is his idea...nor is a WW3. To my limited knowledge a WW3 was planned almost 100 years or more ago.

As I have stated in this thread and others...the presidency is a puppet office. The advisers are not there to give one advice..but to give one orders....starting with the national security advisor...chief of staff etc.

It is also no different for the Congress. They too represent someone but not the American People.

Thanks,
Orangetom


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 12:12 PM by ConservativeJack
Originally posted by EvilAxis
Originally posted by Bejing
The USA doesn’t have any money to go to War. They gave it all to the Banks and they won’t lend it back AND the only Company that has enough manufacturing plants to build the war materials, GM, and they are going out of business...


A somewhat cock-eyed analysis. The USA didn't have the money to go to war in Iraq or Afghanistan but the Banks were glad to lend it.

The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More Washington Post, Sunday, March 9, 2008

The decision to go to war in the final analysis is not made by the government but by the power elite - the puppet-masters who pull the strings of the central banks, the military-industrial complex and their appointed political henchmen.

They will try to take us to war if they see a financial imperative in doing so. America's debt and lack of domestic industry to climb out of it might be one such "imperative". Recall that WWII arose during a period of worldwide economic depression.


*Sighs*

*Knows you have no idea what you're talking about*

*China is not going to keep buying our bonds forever*

*At some point, China takes care of China first*

*That day is soon approaching its why we didn't go after Iran Bush knows we have no money*
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