Obama planning WW-III and draft?

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Cheers people.

Ive said it at the beginning of the year and ill say it again. War between US/Israel-Iran will spark between now and Obama's inauguration, however with recent events i think full scale war will erupt before the end of the current year.

Its interesting to see whats going to happen, cant believe everything you read though.

I have a plan take all the people not paying taxes and make then take the first round of the draft. I like this plan alot because I am already doing my patriotic duty by paying a butt load of money every year with taxes.

Hate to break it to you pal, but everyone pays taxes, whether it's income tax or sales tax, we all pay. So I think you need to reconsider your proposal a second or you might be one of those 'first round draft picks.'

Chrono

Well most of us survival types have known doing something within
the system was out of reach after JFK was killed by our own
government in Dallas.

Eisenhower gave his warning in his famous speech, as did JFK.

At this point, all you can do is get out of the way of the trouble.

They are too strong to fight, and have too many blind followers
that will not see the light til pain and suffering rouses them from
their dreaming.

I do not blame them for dreaming, but I do blame them for not
at least considering and relfecting on what has already come to pass.

This country has been ignoring the warning signs of many things,
and has been crumbling from within for decades now.

With great similarities to Rome, the US is now in decline.

You say to do something about it, well as we have become a
selfish nation motivated mostly by greed, and thus I recommend
you find like minded ppl and prepare "just in case" for things
to go a little wonky.

Worst case scenario an eventual WW3, middle of the road a new
and expanded war in the middle east and possibly pakistan,
light version of troubles is major economic collapse in the US
with a mild to harsh depression.

Personally I think all of it and more is inevitable.

When you have militia members go before congress and threaten
them with revolt you know that things are about to go wonky...

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Prepare accordingly !

Good Luck to you all !

Is this in line with the thoughts of "kill the useless eaters" ?

If so I am afraid I do not care for that tone even though I am
a tax payer just like you.

I pay many thousands a year to the government in income tax,
and many thousands in many other types of tax.

Also if you think about it, you will find that all goods in services
in society have taxes added in layers to them from the time
they are a raw material til they get checked out at the register.

So you may be paying more in taxes I assure you the hidden
layers of taxes affect all ppl unless they are totally on the
handout band wagon.

wtf........obama causing ww3.i dont think that will happen.I mean,has there ever been a war with a demacratic president,no.think about it.

reply to post by wongo333

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WW1 - Wilson (Democrat)
WW2 - Roosevelt (Democrat)
Korea - Truman (Democrat)
Vietnam - Kennedy/Johnson (both Democrats)

See a pattern here?

LOL LOL LOL ChrisT and Wongo.

I was thinking the same thing...how many people know so little history and assume the rest of us don't know any history as well.

Most of the presidents during war time have in fact been democrats. I cannot imagine what they are teaching as history in lieu of historical time lines now days.

However to be as fair as my corruptable heart can stand....I don't believe Obama or even Bush began this war as did the others in other wars. They are only puppets caught up in a swirling mess made by others. It appears to me that these wars were planned years before...and for a definite purpose and goal.

I also knew back when Congressman Charles B. Rangel and some others were calling for the draft a few years ago that they were serious and were actually paving the way for it to return. Ironic for democrats who in years past were so vocally anti war.

However..rest assured that when this war..like others before..arrives ..it too will be hijacked with the real purposes/direction in mind..not the public reasons. This war will also be a meat grinder...eating up people like candy. It will not be over soon. It will be designed to devour people.

For those of you with a weak grasp of history...the wars of the last forty years have been designed to continue...not to win them. The problem has always been how to keep the wars going...at great public expense in lives and materials. Do not hold out any hope for change in this template in the next war.

As to this talk about community service. ...Wow!!

Around here ..community service is what is given out to people who have broken the law but not sufficient to be jailed. People convicted of breaking the law.
Somehow this comes across as we are all lawbreakers and subject to indentured servitude...yet no trial has taken place. I think that if this is instituted..it too will be hijacked just like the wars....for political reasons. People will be working on projects favorable to people in power..pet projects at public expense. You know..maintaining homes and properties for public officials...city councils, senators, congressmen, representatives, etc etc. A big prostituted labor pool. Bridges to nowhere...et al.

Reminds me of putting everyone in a big Kibbutz...with a hack political overseer. Indentured servitude. A commune if you like..communism....work gangs...ie...gulags. Not a far step from a chain gang.
But I think at least half of us out here would not know this history having gotten most of our educations from television and emotional programming like Oprah and Bill Maher, Chris Matthews...et al. History is not the forte of many now days...emotions are.
There will actually be people out here who are dumb enough to think this community service is going to be change. It is going to be free labor...prostituted out like everything else government historically runs and ruins. More spiritual whoredom and the fruit this produces.

People have to be educated in the public system to get this naturally dumb...people left to their own devices and with a real education are not naturally this stupid.
Only public education can dumb a people down this far. For pubic education you can substitute the words....a television education...majoring in emotional stimulus programming....ie...entitlements.

It is become obvious to those who can think for themselves that entitlement thinking has been going on for so long ...that these entitlement thinking peoples are now represenatives, senators and now presidents.
Notice carefully ...that people who talk about Wealth Redistribution are not talking about Risk Redistribution. Think long and carefully about this.

Thanks,
Orangetom

[edit on 24-11-2008 by orangetom1999]

LMAO

Obama to cause World War 3 and he wants a draft?

LOL

Yea, that will never happen

Obama was AGAINST (he VOTED) AGAINST the Iraq War

It shows how he thinks

The man isn't about Wars. He is about getting his legacy as the best President in a long time.

He studies Lincoln and Washington. The man is too smart to be a screw up. Sorry

Hate to burst your BUBBLE.

But NOPE. NOT under OBAMA. OBAMA is the safest guy we could have in there right now.

reply to post by Conservative Jack

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The office of president of the united states has been a puppet office for many many years now. As near as I can tell this has been going on as far back as Teddy Roosevelt..and perhaps since after Lincoln. Definitely since the time of Woodrow Wilson.

There is no such thing as a safe president in a puppet government...no matter what party is in office.

If there was a safe government ...policies and laws would have been instituted which would favor the public..not the government. This cannot be accidental..but deliberate..no matter what party is in office..it never happens.

As I stated in my previous post...one has to have an emotional television education not to get it or fail to connect the dots.

History will bear this out for us.

Thanks,
Orangetom



[edit on 24-11-2008 by orangetom1999]

How exactly did he do that? He couldn't have voted against going to war in Iraq because he wasn't a senator when they had that vote. The vote to authorize use of our military in Iraq was in 2002. Obama was not even elected to the US senate till 2004. He didn't vote for or against it, because he was not in the US senate at the time. State senate yes, US senate no.

reply to post by ConservativeJack

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Obama didn't vote against the war, he wasn't a senator then, there is no possible way on earth he could have voted against it.

reply to post by Jenna

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IN political circles...among people of power..it is known that such a metioric rise to power from almost nowhere...in such a short time.. generally means they were put there..instituted for a purpose by others. This means they are puppets for the programs and intents of others.

Politics ..even at the state and local levels is a very corrupt and cut throat buisness. With so many others who have been in office and power long before these new people...it means that these powerful people were told and instructed by others more powerful to let them play through for a purpose.

My first inkling of this came from some reading on the life of Karl Marx and the Internationale. Marx's rise to one of the top positions so quickly in lieu of others more qualified for the job. This meant that he was promoted there on the nod of others and for a reason.


Thanks,
Orangetom

I'll be dead before I see my three children "serve " in any damn thing the government dreams up. We don't "owe" the government anything, we are the government. The government is supposed to be scared of us, not the other way around.

No, we are not the government, we are nothing more than their popular sovereign.

I hope there is a draft, I think that if we want to have all these freedoms that we enjoy, we should have some kind of a required national service system put in place. Not hope on a dream that our armies will conqueror our adversaries.

Keep open mind to when I say national service system, I'm not talking solely on the Armed Services, you should include the Peace Corps and missionary services that could improve our image to the world.

Plus, hah, I took my ASVAB for the U.S. Army and was going into Satellite Communications, and my girlfriend told me no.. So I hope there is a draft, Give me my rifle, give me my gun! I wanna shoot at someone for fun!