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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 09:17 PM by arcnaver
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Originally posted by geemony
Originally posted by kyred
Obama had the opportunity to serve in the military and he chose not to. Now he says everyone is obligated? P*ss on him.
And this would be 1 of many reasons I don't like him. However, a mandatory 2 year military or civilian service should have been set up a long time
ago in America. Like Truth said in his earlier post, If we don't work together at some point we wont survive much longer at any rate.
Then p*ss on everything that every American Service Member has fought for then? Lets take away the individuals right to abstain, or protest, they
should be forced. Sounds an awful lot like slavery to me.
The best type of military to have, is the one with members who want to be their by choice. You force people into it, you get what you pay for, just
as effective as Russian's holding broomsticks.
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 09:27 PM by Agit8dChop
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your gunna last here a whole 20seonds I reackon.
to many americans think like you crimson ghost, all brason and bravado with abuse and language.
I bet 1 minute in the pouring rain with a heavy pack at 2am doing drills would make you breakdown in tears!
Ive never done it, but I'd relish the chance, which is in fact why im joining the reserves in January.
But, I do agree, there's no need for a draft.
With the economy in the toilet, so much unemployment and so many families being forced out of their homes, I can see many mothers/fathers joining up
simply to keep their family fed and housed.
Imagine if the government offered you
- a wage
- food for your family
- to pay your mortgage bu cutting thus wage
for some military service..
you'd do it.
No need for a draft!
but to add, I think making highschoolies do the national thing, it should be 12 months unpaid service.
You learn life skills, you help 3rd world nations and homeless people.
Then you can either leave, or stick around for another 12 months, but be paid for this 12.
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 09:32 PM by crimson ghost
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 09:35 PM by FearSoul
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 09:38 PM by crimson ghost
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 09:40 PM by crimson ghost
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 09:47 PM by estrip
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go to war with iran, dommino three. well i told my nephew not to join the military because we were going to war with iran. well, now here we are and
now thru a grapevien i heard from a source that we will go there in august of 2009 the latest. i hope it were not true, lets hope something good
happens thru this. peace.
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 09:55 PM by Dbriefed
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Originally posted by crimson ghost
HERE'S A PENNY, BUY A #ING CLUE! DRAFT??? WHAT ARE YOU, VAPID AS ALL HELL????????? DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT A DRAFT WILL BE INSTITUTED?
THE ARMY DOESN'T NEED WORTHLESS PIECES OF # LIKE THE MEMBERS OF ATS... BELIEVE ME.
As an ex-Army Sergeant, I support a professional military rather than a force made of unwilling draftees looking to get kicked out.
Here's another congressman (Charles Rangel - Democrat) that proposes a draft.
www.house.gov...
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
February 14, 2006 Contact: George Dalley
(202) 225-4365
RANGEL REINTRODUCES DRAFT BILL
WASHINGTON - Lawmaker Says Volunteer Military May be Overwhelmed by Military Challenges in Iran, North Korea and Syria requiring more troops who will
have to be drafted
Congressman Charles Rangel today introduced new legislation to reinstate the military draft that will include draftees up to 42 years of age.
"Every day that the military option is on the table, as declared by the President in his State of the Union address, in Iran, North Korea, and Syria,
reinstatement of the military draft is an option that must also be considered, whether we like it or not," Congressman Rangel said. "If the
military is already having trouble getting the recruits they need, what can we do to fill the ranks if the war spreads from Iraq to other countries?
We may have no other choice but a draft."
The bill would mandate military service for men and women between the ages of 18 and 42. Deferments would be allowed only for completion of high
school up to the age of 20, and for reasons of health, conscience or religious belief. Recruits not needed by the military in any given year would be
required to perform some national civilian service.
"My bill conforms to the age standards that have been set by the Army itself," Congressman Rangel said, referring to the Army's recent announcement
raising the top age for Army volunteers from 39 to 42. "With volunteers now being accepted up to the age of 42, it makes sense to cap the age of
draftees at 42," Congressman Rangel said.
Congressman Rangel first proposed legislation for the draft in January 2003 before the invasion of Iraq....
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 10:28 PM by Chance321
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Did you happen to forget this little bit I saved for obama's own web site, under "America Serves". It says. The obama Administration will call on
Americans to serve in order to meet the nations needs. Obama will call on citizens of ALL ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50hrs
of community service in middle and high school and 100hrs of community service in college every year. This was from his own site Change.gov
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 10:33 PM by Raman
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 10:39 PM by catalystchicky
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 10:43 PM by Chance321
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 Well at least I haven been put on suspension again(so far  ), so I must be doing something right. 
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 10:49 PM by catalystchicky
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Originally posted by crimson ghost
HERE'S A PENNY, BUY A #ING CLUE! DRAFT??? WHAT ARE YOU, VAPID AS ALL HELL????????? DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT A DRAFT WILL BE INSTITUTED?
THE ARMY DOESN'T NEED WORTHLESS PIECES OF # LIKE THE MEMBERS OF ATS... BELIEVE ME.
Wow this is a vile attack of the members of ATS! Shame on you such language!
lol
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 10:53 PM by catalystchicky
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You must not have any opinions of late that "they" don't agree with lol!!
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 11:05 PM by TheController
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 11:08 PM by Common Good
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 11:09 PM by Jenna
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Originally posted by geemony
I'm not an Obama supporter for various reason, however would it be so bad if all american citizens are required to serve in the military or do
something to support their country or community for a time?
Actually I think you would be hard pressed to find a single member of the US military who would choose to serve beside someone forced into military
service as opposed to someone who volunteered for it. When it comes down to it, our volunteer military works. If you were serving, would you really
want some snot-nosed brat that doesn't want to be serving to be the one watching your back?
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