Cosmic Top Secret Information

Originally posted by Brainiac
Well in reply to this post. This all would seem pretty fantastic, and is it believable? Well... Without proof, this just makes for a good book sale.

Robert Dean has 0 books available to the best of my knowledge.

reply to post by chapter29


Good point. Their eyes might be the source of their energy.

Made me think of the stories about how some people have claimed to be able to live on nothing but light and others can apparently survive for long periods while meditating.

reply to post by JohnnyAnonymous


Found a really interesting video of Clifford Stone and Robert Dean:

richardlalancette.blogspot.com...

reply to post by peacejet


reportedly they "eat" by putting bodily fluids mixed with a hydrogen peroxide gel...on there skin.... they also excrete waste thru the skin

[edit on 23-11-2008 by thefreepatriot]

Originally posted by blowfishdl
reply to post by Darthorious

 

Do you determine him to be a credible source?

I would like to get an opinion from someone whom deals with military types on a regular basis. Maybe be able to read his credibility by his mannerism from the video. When I do this I see nothing but complete honesty.

Well he believes what he is saying but after watching the video I can say without a doubt he was or had a lot of friends that were military due to some key phrases I only hear from military or retired military individuals. I won't say what they were because last thing we need is crack pots using these phrases to further their causes.

After looking at his rank I kind of doubt he was a Col. due to the fact the rank he is wearing is an E-9 insignia and it takes your entire career to achieve E-9. As an E-9 your are equivalent to an enlisted Col. and would still be privy to Top Secret material. So why lie and say you were a Col. when you were an E-9 being as how E-9 is the equivalent enlisted wise.

What he needs to show is a DD form 214 to show what his retired rank was or an equivalent for the time when he retired. I know the last time that form was updated was in 1988, as that's the date on mine. It will list job title and training, however anything classified top secret will not appear on the form. As none of my top secret clearances I held or top secret training courses I took appear on the form.

The insignia he is wearing can be bought online at:

www.usamilitarymedals.com...

Normally retired military like to ware ribbons along with the insignia. This is usually how you can tell an officer use to be enlisted because they are authorized to ware their enlisted ribbons one of them being given for completing basic training.

www.veterantributes.org...

I would have to say without producing a DD form 214 or it's equivelent I would have a hard time believing he was a col. after watching the video. He definitely had something to do with the military as like I said before certain phrases you usually only hear from military members. But weather it was just hanging around on a base he had friends on or actually in the military I don't know.

Side note: You are required for all job applications to supply the DD form 214 to prove you were military. If you don't you are not considered as military in the job application selection process.

reply to post by Darthorious


Yes he definitely was not a Col. that was a misprint on the original article.

This is his exact title:

Robert Dean, retired USAF Sergeant Major

reply to post by blowfishdl


Robert Dean has really grown on me. He comes across as completely sincere with a massive heart. Sometimes I think the "Assessment" he was shown was not what he thought it was, you know? Was he manipulated? Which prominent figures in "ufology" haven't been? I listen to everything he says though, and enjoy it and absorb it. I'll read any new stuff he releases too and read the always insightful ATS comments.

reply to post by Darthorious

friend,

the man who wrote the article is the one that made the mis-rank assignment; Robert O. Dean was a Command Sargeant Major, his career and rank have been verified long ago, and has been in the public eye on UFO's for many years; listen to the ats mix link Johnny Anonomously posted.


seeker

reply to post by blowfishdl


So,

We are supposed to take his MERE WORDS as fact without any proof, even without a single sheet from this so called "Assessment"?

I'm sorry, but this guy is as credible as any UFO nuts out there.

The fact that he made a press conference back in the late 90's claiming that the world was going to end in the year 2000 is proof this guy just spouts out anything he likes.

There's a video of him doing that in Google Video. I remember a member in here posted a link in here a few months back.

Don't believe 100% everything he says. He may as well been fed disinfo by his so called 'sources'.

And oh, bt the way, he agrees with all the things that John "Soulcatcher" Lear says. He said it so in C2C with Art Bell.
Look for it in YouTube.

That's how credible he is.

[edit on 23-11-2008 by SkepticalSpectacle]

reply to post by SkepticalSpectacle


He's much more credible than you are however.


Robert Dean (Ufologist)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ufologist
Name: Robert O. Dean
Born: 1929
Education: ancient history, psychology, and philosophy at Indiana University
Resume
Field: US Army (Retired)
Paranormal Area: Ufologist
Affiliates: MUFON

Robert Orel Dean (born 1929), also known as Bob Dean, is a retired Command Sergeant Major in the US Army,[1] who became notable in UFOlogy circles after he claimed to have viewed "Cosmic Top Secret" documents detailing alien activity on Earth. He now lectures in ufology around the world and has been described as 'an elder statesman of the UFO community'[2][3][4][5][6][7][8]

Dean has appeared many times on radio, TV documentaries and at conferences discussing the subject of UFOs and Extraterrestrial life. [9]

Dean is also notable for having successfully sued his employer under anti-discrimination laws on the ground that they were treating him unfairly because of his belief in UFOs. [10]


Education

Dean majored in ancient history, psychology, and philosophy at Indiana University, completed extensive studies in archeology and theology and holds the equivalent of a masters level degree in Emergency Management

Army Service

Dean served in the army for 27 years [1]. He fought as a Second Lieutenant in the US Army during the Korean War. In 1963, Dean was assigned to SHAPE (Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe) which at that time was just outside Paris (it later would be relocated to Mons, Belgium).

Alleged NATO document on UFOs—“The Assessment”

In 1964, a USAF colonel, Col. Frank Collins, gave Dean, a Command Master Sergeant access to a copy of a document called An Assessment. Dean states that there were only 15 copies, one of which was kept in the safe. Dean said he read it every chance he had, being able to access the document because he had Cosmic Top Secret Clearance,[11] As would be expected in the case of such a high security classified document Dean has been unable to provide a copy to prove his recount.

Dean states the document An Assessment: An Evaluation of a Possible Threat to Allied Forces in Europe, (published in 1964) was one & a half inches thick, and is a secret NATO report on UFOs. The document was accompanied by 8 1/2 inches of Annexes and Appendices.

The report, was ordered to be compiled by British Air Marshall Sir Thomas Geoffrey Pike, Deputy SACEUR (Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe) from August 1963 until his retirement in 1967. The report was prompted by a Red Alert event that is claimed to have happened on 2 February 1961 at 0200 hrs. A formation of approximately 50 flying disc-shaped objects flew at very high altitudes, at very high speeds under intelligent control. They came from the east, flew over Germany, France, England and continued north until they disappeared over the Norwegian sea.

The titles of some of the annexes of the report, Dean states, were as follows: Radar and Electromagnetic Effects, Optical and Light Analysis, Photographic and Holographic Analysis, Historical Research and Historical Evidence, Metallurgical and Technical Analysis, Atmospheric Physics and Meteorology, Biological Analysis and Autopsies, Sociological Problems, Psychological Problems, Theological Implications, and Worldwide Effects.

"The Assessment", concluded in 1964 that there were four different extraterrestial civilizations visiting Earth[12] but by the time of Dean’s retirement from the military in 1976, he claims, the assessment was there were at least twelve different extraterrestrial civilizations visiting Earth.

Career after retirement from the military

After retiring from the military in 1976, Dean worked for the Federal Emergency Management Agency until his retirement in 1996. Dean became the former Arizona Assistant Director and Pima County Director for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) and is a former member for Center for UFO studies (CUFOS) and the Ancient Astronauts Society. He also served twelve years as a member of the board of Directors for the Aerial Phenomenon Research Organization (APRO).

References

1. ^ a b New York Times "For U.F.O. Fans, Question Is Not 'If?' but 'How Was the Trip?'", November 21, 1993
2. ^ Robert Dean
3. ^ Robert Dean’s website “Beyond Zebra”:
4. ^ UFO Week brings sky watchers and skeptics together
5. ^ Moreno, Mary (1997) "The Writer's Guide to Corporate Communications", Allworth Press, ISBN 1880559749
6. ^ Denzler, Brenda (2003) "The Lure of the Edge: Scientific Passions, Religious Beliefs, and the Pursuit of UFOs", University of California Press, ISBN 0520239059
7. ^ Kick, Russell (2001) "You Are Being Lied to: The Disinformation Guide to Media Distortion", The Disinformation Company, ISBN 0966410076
8. ^ Weber, Heinz (2003) "Brutstätten des Lebens im Universum", Books on Demand, ISBN 3833401907
9. ^ www.coasttocoastam.com...
10. ^ Dean Jobi (1998) "Aliens in America: Conspiracy Cultures from Outerspace to Cyberspace", Cornell University Press, ISBN 0801484685
11. ^ Secrets and Saucers: For Tucsonan Bob Dean, The Truth is out there, by Jim Nintzil and Héctor Acuña
12. ^ Nexus Magazine - "UFO Uncoverup?"

[edit on 23/11/2008 by blowfishdl]

So he claimed he was abducted willingly and conciously in his Project Camelot interview but has ZERO EVIDENCE to back that up, even without a single photo with his 'alien buddies?'

C'mon why would his alien buddies wouldn't let him have some phot sessions with them? He even claimed the same aliens abducted his dentist.

You can adorn your post with his admittedly impressive credentials, but you cannot deny that he has ZERO PROOF of his claims now, can you?

ZERO PROOF.

Just as John "hologrpahic-911-plane-hit-the-WTC-cause-I'm-a-pilot-goddammit" Lear has all those credentials doesn't mean his 'soul-catcher-saffron-colored-moon-sky-breathable-air' moon is real.

He is as credible as John Lear. Him holding the same beliefs as John Lear proves that.

[edit on 23-11-2008 by SkepticalSpectacle]

reply to post by SkepticalSpectacle


Not gonna post John Lear's resume here, but he has surprisingly less military credentials than Robert Dean. See for yourself.

tinwiki.org...

reply to post by SkepticalSpectacle
M'friend, welcome to ATS. Yes, you are expected to grab this information, and no, you are not expected to believe any of it if it doesn't fit you're own paradigm.

reply to post by rickyrrr

Ica Stones depict some very weird-looking things - perhaps even
animal-plant hybrids, in some cases. Worth taking a look, I think...

Originally posted by blowfishdl
reply to post by falcon

 

Good post, but can I ask you for a simpler answer...

Do you believe Mr. Robert Dean is a reliable source? Many are questioning it in this thread.

I will read up on this more tommarrow or the next day when I get time and get back with that answer. I read some of it but I didnt see the word cosmic information labeled anywhere accept for the title of this thread. I will look at it tommarrow or in a few days and get back to you.

Falcon

reply to post by peacejet

Some theories say that these types of extraterrestrials are photosynthetic and that they obtain solar energy similar to plants

Originally posted by falcon

Originally posted by blowfishdl
reply to post by falcon

 

Good post, but can I ask you for a simpler answer...

Do you believe Mr. Robert Dean is a reliable source? Many are questioning it in this thread.

I will read up on this more tommarrow or the next day when I get time and get back with that answer. I read some of it but I didnt see the word cosmic information labeled anywhere accept for the title of this thread. I will look at it tommarrow or in a few days and get back to you.

Falcon

Ah well just a side note although it is not labeled individually which is Cosmic, the majority of what he speaks of is held at this level of secracy.

The big question I have, is why are they studying us. Is it simply to gain knowledge, like the way we study primitive tribes and cultures? If all these other alien races are visiting us here, do they occasionally interfere with our history? Was the God of Abraham an alien? Zeus? Thor?

I have to wonder if these aliens have officially met with our governments, and if so, what information did they allow us to gain? With so many aliens visiting our planet, we must live in a busy neck of the woods so to speak. either that, or space travel isn't all that dificult, and the speed of light is hardly impossibly to break.

I wonder what the populations of these aliens are. Do they have religions, political termoil, wars?

Originally posted by poet1b
The big question I have, is why are they studying us. Is it simply to gain knowledge, like the way we study primitive tribes and cultures? If all these other alien races are visiting us here, do they occasionally interfere with our history? Was the God of Abraham an alien? Zeus? Thor?

I have to wonder if these aliens have officially met with our governments, and if so, what information did they allow us to gain? With so many aliens visiting our planet, we must live in a busy neck of the woods so to speak. either that, or space travel isn't all that dificult, and the speed of light is hardly impossibly to break.

I wonder what the populations of these aliens are. Do they have religions, political termoil, wars?

Many have stated that they are studying us because we are their biological creation. They are studying our survival and possible evolution as well as brain functionality.

The aliens are said to have no social skills, but instead communicate telepathically all of the time. They have the ability to get inside your mind and convince you that they are an angel, or demon. Whichever they choose.