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Scientists take a step closer to an elixir of youth with "IMMORTAL CELLS"


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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 12:57 PM by Nebadon


i would prefer they work on quality of life before extending it...arthritis,aids,cancer and all of the other BS that modern society has created...

big pharma always tries to treat the problem when they should be finding the cause...

..the cause is poor diet,chemicals in our food,polluted air/water,flouride in our water,chemtrails,EMF,HAARP,low frequency waves,etc.etc.etc.


it would not be nice to live for 200 years with some kinds of diseases..you know what i mean?


we would be living happy/healthy lives if we lived like the natives in harmony with the planet,eating healthy/natural foods/harmony/love....

the industrial age=the downfall of man..lol..along with the cast system,draconian laws,money,poverty,wars,etc.

ok i think that covers some stuff..hehe

much love to you all

namaste'



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 01:25 PM by DimensionIntrusion


Unless you are a member of the Illuminati or their family you will not be allowed an extended life or immortallity. This technology will be available only to those who can afford it . And this will be at the discretion of the NWO. There is no way that "we" the people will have any access to this technology unlees we have a purpose to serve in the NWO.

I dont want to live in that sort of world anyway .



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 01:27 PM by Benarius


Now conmbine this technology with human cloning. We could have our beloved and brought back form the dead dream dictators rule us forever...



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 01:45 PM by sty


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I agree somehow wth what you say. However I am concerned that the " elites" are not going to allow it to happen.. will we survive that long as a race?



If we talk about Ai , singularity - I would say "bring it in"



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 02:08 PM by Dulcimer


Yes... yes! YES!!!!!1

What an age we live in.

I certainly hope medical practices improve before I get too old to live forever.



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 02:16 PM by ATS4dummies


For those of you who are wishing to keep your DNA from further degrading, as I do, the product from TA Sciences is called the TA-65 Patton protocol:

The price for the 12 month Protocol is $22,570.00, payable in two 6 month
installments of $11,285.00 each.

However if you can't afford the 22 grand, then I'd also like to metion that TA-65 is a purified extract from a plant that has been used safely as a Traditional Chinese herb for thousands of years. The herb is called Astragalus and supposedly activates (turns on) telomerase.
I am doing further research to determine the exact compound, and if it can be taken orally, or if an IV / injection is needed.


The link is:www.imminst.org...

Thank you for your recent inquiry and your interest in TA Sciences. The 12
month PATTON PROTOCOL TM is the first and only program in the exciting
field of Telomere Biology designed to help optimize our individual health
as we age, and to help prolong our "Healthspan". Here is how it works:

Clients need to visit the TA Center in New York and have extensive blood
work and other biomarkers of aging done prior to starting the PATTON
PROTOCOL. This will establish your baseline condition. About two weeks
later, when the test results are in, you will have an in-depth
consultation with our associated Anti-Aging physician to discuss your
results and assess your individual health situation. If you live outside
of the New York area, it is possible to have your consultation over the
phone.

The price for this baseline program, which would normally cost close to
$5000.00, is $2430 (our actual third party, discounted out-of-pocket
costs). This baseline evaluation is very valuable on its own as a health
and aging tool. After your initial biomarkers and consultation, you then
decide if you actually want to start the 12 month PATTON PROTOCOL.

The PATTON PROTOCOL consists of:

- A year's supply of Telomerase Activator TA-65 TM (Patents Pending). This
is a pulsed program taken daily for 3 months, then off for 3 months, and
then taken again for the next 3 months, then off again for the final 3
months.

- A repeat of the baseline blood work and biomarkers of aging at 3 months,
6 months, 9 months and 12 months, and follow-up consultations with the
Anti-Aging physician at each of those time points to track your personal
progress.

-A year's supply of our proprietary packets of other nutritional
supplements, vitamins, minerals, and herbs specially formulated for TA
Sciences. These packets, taken 2 times a day, offer a comprehensive
assortment of the most effective vitamins, minerals and herbs, available
anywhere.

- A series of monthly consultations with TA Sciences' expert Lifestyle
Counselor is also available and included, to help you optimize your
personal health and aging goals.

The price for the 12 month Protocol is $22,570.00, payable in two 6 month
installments of $11,285.00 each. We expect the benefits of Telomerase
Activation to last well beyond the initial 12 month period, but this is
leading edge technology and individual results will vary. We suggest that
clients come back one year after finishing the Protocol to have their
biomarkers re-tested and evaluated, and to discuss whether a TA
Maintenance Program at a significantly lower cost would be beneficial.



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 02:21 PM by wylekat



Why would anyone want to DIE?



LOTS of reasons. I for one, wouldn't want to be stuck on this hellish rock... be called the ugliest thing next to Quasimodo for all eternity....



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 02:56 PM by ATS4dummies


Based on the patents, and the work done by Geron, pure Astragaloside IV is quite expensive, no wonder TA-Sciences wanted so much money.

@ a dosage of 50mg a day. (I'm not completely sure that this is the right dosage) A year supply is: 18g

50g of 95% Astragaloside is $1580 @ www.biopurify.com...
50g of 99% Astragaloside is $2080

So a year supply @ 50mg/day is $568 using the 95% mixture.

Still 600$ a year beats the pants off the 20k Ta-Sciences wants.

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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 02:59 PM by ATS4dummies


Currently, the only products I've found which have a stated level of astragalosides are one with 0.3% and Nature's Way Astragalus Extract, which is Standardized to 0.5%.

These capsules contain 250mg of extract, so it's only 1.25mg of astragalosides per capsule. The TA Sciences protocol uses 5mg/day of TA-65. If TA-65 is astragaloside IV, it would be helpful to know what % of astragaloside IV is among the total astragalosides in astragalus, but I was not able to track down this information yet.

This was one of the most helpful analyses and discussions of astragalus that I found online: www.itmonline.org...

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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 03:44 PM by Xilvius


If you ask me immortality isn't all that it is cracked up to be unless you had someone else immortal to spend your infinite life with. Wouldnt care to make friends and lovers who just die over and over again while I live on.




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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 03:57 PM by estar


Personally I wouldn't want to live forever but I wouldn't mind living for a couple of thousand years. Can you imagine the world in say 200 years? we should be travelling space, hopefully visiting and populating other parts of the galaxy. Life is to short as it is tommorow and living in this age of technology is going faster than ever, I want to see & visit other planets and civilizations within my lifetime.



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 04:13 PM by Outlawstar


Personally, I dont fear death, but at the same time, Id love to be imnmnortal, but with some sort of pill that shuts off whatever is keeping you alive so you can chose your lifespan.

But yes I do think its far more important to focus on increasing health by curing the disease outbreaks that we have created, if only big Pharma wasint so corrupt.



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 04:18 PM by Lasheic


You know what other cells are immortal? Cancer.

I still think that the best bet for the immortality of our species is extra-planetary colonization, and for personal immortality - computerization and merging with technology. If we can cross over our consciousness to cyberspace, then the gates of paradise (figuratively speaking) will laid bare before us in a virtual universe which is increasingly more and more realistic. Hunger, Disease, Death, Limited Resources, Overpopulation, Poverty... they could all be eliminated in this environment. There are no limits, aside from the real world infrastructure required to maintain such a construct.

And maybe... just maybe... if we're lucky, we may eventually even be able break the shackles of the physical plight and identity of humanity and be able to answer that age old question, what is it, truly, to be human - and from there then transcend our humanity into something greater.



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 04:37 PM by ofhumandescent


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Okay then bring on that little pill or treatment. I'm all for extending life. And anyone out there that is absolutely not afraid of that visit from the Grim Reaper is either mad, under 40 and doesn't see it coming yet or have never seen a person going through the dying process.

I'm all for life beats the alternative.




ps: I'm not afraid of the end process (death) but it's the dying part that I've seen and it's not easy or pretty. Out of maybe 50 people I've seen pass on, only one (a 103 lady) fought for that last breath.

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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 04:47 PM by spitefulgod


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Why don't you just grow the vegetable and extract it yourself, as I've already mentioned protecting the chromosome fringe doesn't stop the DNA being destroyed by the free radicals in the cells. So make sure you top up on your antioxidants, and if you do actually obtain immortality watch out for highlanders.



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 04:54 PM by mattifikation


Not necessarily shot, but just maybe... go quietly in my sleep. If I can't have literal eternal life, free of pain, sickness, aging, and injury, then I'd rather just have a normal life, free of pain, sickness, aging, and injury.

In other words, what I mean to say is, I'm more concerned with the suffering part than the dying part.



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