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Thai Worries - (UPDATE) Political Upheaval Shuts Down Int. Airport


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Topic started on 22-11-2008 @ 04:25 PM by khunmoon


Thai Worries - Political Upheaval Shuts Down Int. Airport
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THE FATE of the country hangs in the balance today in the face of another political upheaval that could lead to a bloodbath after the People's Alliance for Democracy vowed to launch an all-out effort to bring down the government of Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat and prevent charter amendment by laying siege to Parliament today in its "biggest and final" rally yet.
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 04:25 PM by khunmoon


The above editorial worries comes after 5 month of intense confrontation, which already has claimed more than half a dozen lives and hundreds of disabled.


A grenade blast has wounded eight anti-government protesters camped outside the Thai prime minister's office in Bangkok, emergency services say.
Demonstrators from the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) group have occupied the area since August.
The attack comes two days after another grenade attack on the protesters killed one person and injured more than 20.
The PAD wants the government to resign, saying it is too close to ousted former PM Thaksin Shinawatra.
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The PAD is an alliance of conservative and royalist activists.
They accuse Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat and his recently ousted predecessor, Samak Sundaravej, of being proxies for Mr Thaksin.
The former prime minister, who is Mr Somchai's brother-in-law, was forced from office in a military coup in 2006 and remains in exile.
The PAD wants to replace Thailand's one-man, one-vote system with one in which some representatives are chosen by professions and social groups.
The protests have seen some of the worst street violence since pro-democracy activists challenged Thailand's army in 1992.

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For the record, in May 1992, when Suchinda tried the final solution on the protesters, making North Bkk into a warzone with battlefields on temple grounds, it ended up with a death score that official numbers counts in hundreds, but NGOs puts in thousands. The skirmish ended by the palace interfering.

For years to come --and several times under Thaksin-- state television rerun the audit the king summoned Suchinda and Chamlong to, as an educational example I guess. First time they used the media for crowd control in those parts of the world, and until recently it worked fine, seeing Suchinda with bowed head in (supposed) repent to his king, who himself in that universe is above the law, 'dharmaraja' in their beliefs (and written into everyone of their so far about 30 attempts of writing a constitution). BTW, 'dharmaraja' literally means 'king of the law', and as Bhumibol himself has said, “the king can do no wrong.”

Somehow the magic doesn't work anymore. Too many are informed, they know Suchinda never paid, except for being done a scapegoat character. He kept all his holdings, never did any time, but was confined to his mansion to some degree. Later, under Thaksin, he reappeared as a mentor of his government and a supporter of its special twists. When the man himself was excommunicated doing his job at a (another useless) UN assembly, it didn't mean much he sold his mobile company, a national provider and entrepreneur, as he was, it meant once more 'the little man' was trapped by the elite of old money. Because let us not forget Thaksin was born in modest conditions as a second generation of illegal immigrants, 'jinhaw', of the Mon tribe, Chinese origine, number 4 or 5 in the mess they have made their ethnic diversity into. And as such he is worth following.

And as such –sure in Thailand-- the maverick stands as “the revolutioneur”. A currant example is a general, who in the currant row with PAD has gained a kinda popular platform promoting tactics like delivering snakes over the protesters from helicopters. In Thailand 9 out 10 snakes are poisonous. Seh Daeng is his name, he is now assign to educating aerobics in rural districts. But to some degree he is the type of man Thai people admire.

Maverick Thai general does the hand-grenade waltz


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reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 07:12 AM by khunmoon


news.bbc.co.uk...

Here's a video of the action going on in Bangkok right now. Shots are being fired, a frustration sign from the protesters, and IMO a very unwise one, which eventually can lead to a solution many from the elite undoubtedly would like to see. It worked in 1973, in 76, and it sure did in 1992. Question is will it in 2008. It won't give credit in the world community.

Civil war is to be feared, just by the numbers of participants by Danish media set to be in the 100 of thousands.

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reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 05:13 PM by khunmoon


Here's a few pics. At present Savarnabhumi airport IS closed down.




Furthermore shots has been fired in the streets, allegedly by the protesters, a dozen is reported wounded.

Reading Thai media, it is obvious the protesters are loosing popular support. To disable the airport is cutting the veins of Thai economy.

From Bangkok Post

PAD rallies in late-August that forced the shutdowns of Krabi, Phuket and Hat Yai airports had already put the country's "Land of Smiles" image in jeopardy.

Arrivals in September plummeted 16.5% from last year, with hotel occupancy rates nosediving to just 46.3% compared with 57.5% in August.

The latest tensions could force many operators into bankruptcy, coming just weeks before the peak of the tourist season over the year-end holidays.

Apichart Sankary, president of the Association of Thai Travel Agents (ATTA), said the PAD protest yesterday would have a massive impact on the industry.

"Don't think that the Thai tourism business will grow next year. It's dying now because of the political problems. In the best case, we might just see flat growth," Mr Apichart said.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Tourism is by far the largest industry in Thailand.


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reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 02:26 AM by khunmoon


This morning the chaos around Suvarnabhumi, the controversial prestige airport opened just a year ago as "the hub of SE Asia" is shot down.

At least one bomb has blasted inside the terminal and protesters has occupied the control tower. 3000 passengers is stuck in the terminal. At the moment it's unclear who controls it.

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Chaos is prevailing, they can't gun them down like they used to do, last time in 1992. Political correctness has come to Thailand. Problem is, democracy cannot work in a feudal society, furthermore inhibited by the social rules of a corrupt Buddhist society.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


Some of the latest pics from the scene.




A bloody one you have to click.

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reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 10:27 AM by khunmoon


BBC last updated at 15:16 GMT, Thursday, 27 November 2008
Thai PM 'to act against protests'


The Thai Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat has said he will take action to end anti-government protests in Bangkok's two main airports.
In a TV address, Mr Somchai said the police would be assisted by some military units in halting the protests.
Emergency rule has been declared around the two airports.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


This update is an hour old and it is now 11pm in Bangkok. My estimate is the riot squad will move in in the early hours of the morning with the necessary assistance from troopers and clear the airport.

What is scary is this announcement from a PAD leader in BBK Post


PAD leader and Democrat party-list MP Somkiat Pongpaiboon announced from a stage at Suvarnabhumi after the terminal was overrun that the prime minister had lost legitimacy to administer the country because he was a proxy of convicted former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, as well as his brother-in-law. As soon as he arrives in the country, he must announce his resignation.
Mr Somkiat called the Suvarnabhumi operation a "Hiroshima" war. If it fails to overthrow the government, he said the PAD has a back-up plan called "Nagasaki", but he declined to disclose any details.
Given the significance of those two Japanese cities in the history of warfare, it's surely quite ominous.



Though I generally sympathize with the protesters, I don't like the labeling they use. I hope it will be without bloodshed, when the authorities move in to clear.




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reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 07:36 AM by khunmoon


Thai PM dismiss chief of police

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Thailand's Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat has fired the chief of the national police force, officials say.

The news comes amid mounting tensions over the ongoing protests paralysing Bangkok's two airports.

Anti-government protesters have said they will not leave until Mr Somchai resigns, which he has refused to do.

Police have not yet moved to break up the protests but have said they are prepared to take "other steps" if negotiations fail.



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He wouldn't do as told, clear the terminal. Maybe because he knows it cannot be done without bloodshed. Now he's replaced with one who'll take the risk of collateral damage and lives that eventually will be lost, because the protesters are armed not only with sticks and iron bars. Handguns and grenades are part of their armory too.

It's crazy, because as you can sense from the pictures it's kind of picnic mood the rallying goes on in. Elderly people and children are present.

Reports of troopers assembling on nearby parking lots are coming in. Yesterday night television footage showed ambulances being lined up by the showcase terminals only two years old, a monument of the Thaksin reign, who after almost 50 years of planning managed to get the construction done

Lives are foremost to be worried about, but when the fighting is through, the airport structure will have suffered damage too. Because it was pressed through as prestige project it was not quite finished by the opening in September 2006 and is hardly yet.

A lot of mending to be done, not just to the terminal, when this is over.

I pity you Thailand, is all I can say ...and I wonder if you ever can mend your society.

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reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 02:32 PM by khunmoon


It is now 3:30 pm in Bangkok.

The latest development.

Thai protesters ordered to leave


Thai police have ordered protesters occupying Bangkok's Don Mueang airport, to leave, as tensions mount over the continuing demonstrations.

At the international airport, also paralysed by protests, hundreds of riot police have moved into place.

The moves follow news of the demotion of the country's chief of police.

The anti-government People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) say they will not leave until PM Somchai Wongsawat resigns, which he has refused to do.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Video of shooting at an pro-government anchor in a TV studio.


YouTube Link


Things are getting a bit hot... I hope it will be resolved peacefully and the airport will open soon.



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reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 03:02 PM by xmotex


Thanks for the information.

I have been watching this with some concern, what blows my mind is that this "People's Alliance for Democracy" seem to be protesting against democracy - they're urban elites who feel that democracy has handed too much power to the rural poor, and feel that more power should be handed to the King.

The King, to his credit, doesn't actually seem all that interested in grabbing more power though, and has avoided throwing any fuel on the fire.

The whole thing is really pretty sad, I've always been an admirer of the Thais, who IME are tied with Filipinos as the nicest people on planet Earth, and have some excellent food too.

It's a place I have always hoped to visit some day, I guess it won't be for a while



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reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 03:58 PM by khunmoon


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One thing you have to be clear about concerning Thailand, and that is they don't have a conception of democracy --they cannot grasp it at least not i the sense we do-- because no matter what you call there governing it is at the bone autocracy, a feudal system. Democracy takes generations of education, and though they officially have had it --on and off-- since 1932 they are for 90% of the populous purely educated.

The division of the groups involved in this conflict as seen by Western media is IMO not true. I would put the lines along the educated vs the non-educated.

The problem in their representative system is the ones elected never dreamed of representing any other than themselves. It's a very misanthropic society, where if you help anyone it is for your merit only. Their only duties lay to their king and religion.

The present mess was created by the former government of Thaksin, who as the first one ever for strategic reasons did some charity.

He gave cheap housing and basic health care to the poor. Nobody had ever done that before. He did it as vote buying, so he could claim majority support for the corruption he as PM of the country got away with (but now is convicted for).

He very well knew the more educated would look through his corrupt dealings, so he needed the rural support for justifying his tricks. A poor farmer to whom Bangkok is as far away and glamorous as New York would never look through this.



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reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 05:34 PM by khunmoon


Thai Families, in Face-off With Police, Vow to Hold Airport


Thanomsak Ratchamart, his wife and six-year-old son are among Thai demonstrators whose four-day seizure has paralyzed Bangkok’s international airport. The 47- year-old oil company manager says they want “a new democracy.”

“We are not afraid,” said Thanomsak, wearing a yellow scarf, while his family sported the yellow sports shirts protesters have chosen as a uniform to show their allegiance to Thailand’s revered King Bhumibol Adulyadej. “If the soldiers don’t stage a coup, maybe there will be a civil war.”

The airport seizure pits the government, holed up in the city of Chiang Mai among its supporters in the north, against tens of thousands of Bangkok protesters demanding its ouster in demonstrations since May. The government last night declared a state of emergency at areas controlled by the protesters -- Bangkok’s international and domestic airports and Government House, and ordered police to clear protesters out.

About 5,000 men, women, children of all ages have transformed what was Southeast Asia’s busiest airport into what may be the final battleground of a six-month campaign by the People’s Alliance for Democracy. They aim to oust a government they say is a proxy of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, ousted in a 2006 coup and now a fugitive from a conviction for conflict of interest.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


It is early morning in Bangkok now. The crack down is expected this morning. In this video Thaksin predict it to be bloody.


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reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 07:18 PM by xmotex


Yeah, although I have no great love for the PAD, I can't say I am a huge fan of the government either from anything I have read.

However destroying the country's economy and shooting at people is not the way to fight corruption, and imposing an oligarchy or staging a coup is not a good way either.

I am hoping that wiser heads on both sides will find a way to compromise peacefully and bring the crisis to an end.



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reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 10:07 PM by FRIGHTENER


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Flag & Stars! Real well done, khunmoon. Nice job putting together such a
comprehensive thread. WITH pictures and updates. You're definitely a "deep roller".

I'm always curious and concerned when masses of people challenge thier gov. because the usual outcome is FORCE used by the rulers! Followed by nausea used by ME! I guess I tend to root for the underdog.

Mr. Somchai said he will use the military to assist the police, in "clearing" the protesters...BRUTAL! He says he doesn't want anyone hurt; sounds like typical double-speak to me. This will NOT end peacefully, against all our wishes. Then again, with these PAD protesters claiming "Hiroshima" as thier first phase, and "Nagasaki" as thier second, any leader would have no choice, except to prepare for violent clashes.

Chaos & bedlam are beginning to consume much of the world, so I can't help but putting aside my curiosities about the REASONS any more, and focus on watching the OUTCOME instead. (And paying close attention to when I start seeing it here, in the U.S.A.). not "if"...



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reply posted on 29-11-2008 @ 03:36 AM by khunmoon


Thanks for the respond.

Yes, cultural differences is the key to understand the ongoing crises.

This article points out the irrationalities seen from a western standpoint.

Thailand's messy politics: Is culture the culprit?

While Thailand spirals into further political crisis, this article examines the current situation from a cultural perspective, to reveal why Westerners might have difficulties understanding how recent political events could have transpired in a country so renowned for its easy-going nature.

Many Westerners, both inside and outside of Thailand, have been watching closely as the country falls into a deeper political mess, and they are wondering how Thais can be acting so violently against each other.
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The cultural values of Thailand offer an interesting avenue for understanding the Thai thought patterns underlying these recent political events. They can also explain why Westerners might need to accept that they may never appreciate the Thai logic that has led to the current political mess.

Cultural groups can be distinguished from one another by their decision-making practices. For example, in deciding how their communities should be structured, Thai people tend to prefer to adopt a more authoritarian structure, whereas many Westerners favour a more egalitarian approach.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


The development of this past night hasn't brought no solution, no crack down. Only action has been the protester forcing the police from a checkpoint.

Authorities seem paralyzed. They don't know what to do, and it is obvious they are not inclined to repeat the bloody blunders of the past. Too much attention from the world, the global village knows immediately.

Not like 1992, where the turmoil was triggered much similar to this by a demand of resignation of Suchinda, the ruling general at that time. He reacted like they always had, with force. Further more the media was blackened. Nothing was reported, soup as usual.

The popular account goes that most of the capital was unaware what was happening, even the king was. The fighting didn't stop before the he was called by relatives abroad. It was before cable and satellite was common. In Thailand only those involved knew, but BBC and CNN reported to the world, so we knew.

When the king's attention was called, he stopped the fighting and fired Suchinda. BTW his opponent then was Chamlong, who also is front figure in PAD. He is a retired general and former governor of Bangkok. He also is a member of the kings privy council, another indication that PAD is supported by the palace.

In the present situation everybody is waiting for the king to intervene.

Thai protesters force police to abandon checkpoint

Chamlong said PAD leaders had not yet held any talks with authorities.
king
"We are still open to talks but only with people directly involved in the situation such as Somchai," he told a news conference.

"They can talk with any of our leaders and wherever, but nobody contacts us yet.

He also offered some hope of a way out, without giving details.

"We believe the situation will not be prolonged as we always think of the important day. But we believe it will be eased before Dec. 5," he told a news conference, refering to revered King Bhumibol Adulyadej's birthday.

In a televised address on Thursday night, Prime Minister Somchai said the PAD members barricaded at the airports were doing massive damage to the economy, but he would avoid violence to end the protests.

"Don't worry. Officials will use gentle measures to deal with them," Somchai said, inviting rights groups and journalists to monitor the imposition of emergency rule at the two airports.


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reply posted on 29-11-2008 @ 04:17 PM by khunmoon


The stalemate around the airport continues.

The latest reports tell about 2000 police laying a cordon around the airport and a second warning has been issued to the protesters to clear the terminal. This warning uses a more harsh wording than the first. It is said three warnings in all will be issued before action is taken.

A serious incident however happened at the government house in Bangkok.

Bomb exploded at PAD's rally site inside the Government House and ASTV station

A video from Al Jazeera:
Airport protests put Thai economy in peril


YouTube Link


I would like to add two old threads of mine I did in 2006 about the opening Suvarnabhumi airport. It has always caused problems. It was nearly fifty years in the making, and the site it was build had the original name of 'Nong Ngu Hao' meaning "The Swamp of Cobras."

BTW, Suvarnabhumi is the old Indian name for Thailand, meaning "Land of Gold" ...but it still is a swamp.

Suvarnabhumi, Bangkoks Corruption Ridden New State-of-Art Airport, Finally to Open

SCANDAL: BKK's New Airport Loses Safety Certificate and Diverts Traffic back to Old One


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reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 02:12 AM by FRIGHTENER


You're welcome. Thanks for all the educating info, don't know much about Thailand.

After reading the article about culture, Thailand sounds like a good place for the soul; emotions are important, spiritual wholeness, and concern for people "feeling good"...WOW, us westerners could learn alot from these values. Instead, our pathetic establishment will rush anyone to a psych ward in chains, to be forceably drugged, that expresses emotions in public!

The king sounds rational, maybe this can be resolved without force!?!
The police abandoned thier checkpoint- musta been really scared, the way cops get once in a blue moon, when the masses are too many! Like L.A. after the not-guilty verdict for the cops who beat Rodney King!

Authorities are holding back on the force, for now, hope it lasts. I don't know the name of the police chief, but seeing how he was fired for NOT taking action, makes me scream in jubilation! (oops, not too loud, don't want my emotions to get me taken away!!!) But I would shake the man's hand, in appreciation for his stance; even buy him a cold one!

A cop who won't use force on people.... hmmmm...
Sorry, I daydream sometimes, in the middle of doin' somethin!

We removed TV from our house a long time ago, to get well. So I don't have a clue on the news, except web, and a little radio, and fence-side chats with neighbors. BBC was ok, and PBS I liked; but that's all. So when I learn stuff like this from you, or other ATS members, I'm happy. (oops again; I meant: intellectually stimulated?)nyuk nyuk

I wonder who's responsible for that bomb, gov or pad? Either way, it's a very terrible thing. No matter who set it off, the situation usually escalates after such a rotten thing. The king is needed.



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reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 02:26 AM by CaptainCaveMan


Thanks for an informative thread here mate.
Explains alot about what is going on.
This is a serious concern all of this.
It seems they might go in with guns blazing soon.
That would be crazy for them to do.
They need to resolve this peacefully.
Compromise, both party's giving up something in order to come to an agreement.
Both sides here must make a compromise.
I hope they don't hurt these people.



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reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 04:00 AM by khunmoon


Thank you.


Originally posted by FRIGHTENER

I wonder who's responsible for that bomb, gov or pad? Either way, it's a very terrible thing. No matter who set it off, the situation usually escalates after such a rotten thing. The king is needed.



That's a very good question. Some false flag operations definately are there. The blast in October claiming two lives, explained by teargas grenades gone astray, have that significant characteristics they left no gunpowder residue. There are some explosive devices out there that don't use traditional charges, but some kind of shockwave. The Israelies use them, and as well as close cooperation with US agencies, they sure have with Israele too. Thais are the largest immigrant working force in the Jewish state.

About the king, he's old and fragile. This next Friday he turns 81, and for every Thai this occupation has to be resolved before if not for any Thai, PAD or pro-government alike, to lose face. Fact is, he is the only factor that keeps the country together. Everybody fears his passing, and most observers agree upon mayhem at a level of civil war when the succession becomes reality.

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In lack of action the media is starting to focus on the stranded unable to get out. The U-Tapao base has been opened for civil traffic, but as it served well for delivering bombs over Vietnam, it doesn't serve the purpose of evacuating human beings that well.

100,000 stranded in Thailand after airports shut

Few have been immune to the disruptions. Tour groups, backpackers, business executives and even celebrities have found themselves unable to escape Thailand.

The pregnant wife of England Rugby League Capt. Jamie Peacock is stuck with the couple's 4-year-old son. The athlete made an emotional appeal Saturday for the safe return of his wife Faye, who is 31-weeks pregnant.

"The country is on the brink of a lot of trouble," Peacock told reporters back home. "It's as if they have forgotten about these people."

For the rich and famous, there are charter flights.

Denmark's Prince Frederik and his wife, Princess Mary, flew out from the military airport on a small corporate jet on Friday, according to Danish news agency Ritzau, citing royal spokeswoman Lene Balleby.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Another account of the situation at U-Tapao, situated close to Pattaya, the resort that grew from village during the sixties to become "the worlds largest brothel" serving the combat forces in Nam.

Chaos reigns at Thailand's tourist airlift

Since Friday, the U-Tapao naval base 190 kilometres (118 miles) southeast of Bangkok has been the only way in or out of the country for tourists stranded by an anti-government blockade of the capital's main airports.

Travellers who arrived here found crowds of tired and angry passengers, armed guards, piles of garbage, mountains of luggage -- and an increasingly tense and surreal atmosphere.

Built in the 1960s by the US air force and equipped with just one X-ray scanner for bags, the airbase can only handle around 40 flights a day, compared to the 700-flight capacity of Bangkok's gleaming Suvarnabhumi international airport.

But thanks to the demonstrations, it's all that Thailand has to offer.

"I think it's stupid," said Danny Mosaffi, 57, from New York City. "They have killed tourism in this country, the authorities should go do something. Nobody is going to come here."

Thai authorities say more than 100,000 travellers -- both Thai and foreign -- have had flights cancelled since the occupation of Suvarnabhumi on Tuesday in what the protesters are calling their "final battle" against the government.

Some travel agents bussed passengers down to U-Tapao, which is near the tourist resort of Pattaya, but with information proving difficult to come by in Bangkok, others came on their own more in hope than expectation.

Huge traffic jams built up outside the sprawling compound. Thai soldiers with M16 rifles guarded the entrance to the airport to prevent anti-government protesters from gaining access, as travellers lugged their bags under the sun.

Once inside the terminal, it was standing room only. Travellers were unsure where they should check in. Long queues wound around the lone luggage scanner, where soldiers tried to hold back the surging crowd.

"It's complete chaos and pandemonium," said Bonnie Chan, 29, from San Diego, California.

"We've been given incorrect information from the airlines. The US embassy says they can't help us. We're high and dry. The airlines keep giving us the run-around."

With no departures board available, airline employees held up signs that said "Final boarding call, Moscow," while other staff stood inside the security area and pressed signs against a glass window calling for passengers to board a flight to Hong Kong.

At one point, a group of unruly passengers pushed their way through a door to the security screening area after an airport employee announced the final boarding call for a flight to Taipei.

One woman, caught in the surge, began to scream, and the soldiers forced the doors shut.

"We've treated six patients today," said Nan Soontornnon, 24, of Bangkok Hospital in Pattaya, standing with a doctor and nurse in a makeshift clinic.

"Passengers have had headaches, exhaustion, and other problems, like fainting. But this place has protection from the soldiers -- Suvarnabhumi doesn't," she said.

U-Tapao's only other selling point was when female employees from one enterprising Pattaya hotel, taking advantage of the captive audience, put on a traditional Thai dance performance.


There's plenty of info about on people trying to get out, but what about those who are scheduled to go there in the coming days?

Like myself.. I have close ties to Thailand and a family there ...and a ticket for next Sunday.

I relay on the kings birthday will resolve the occupation.



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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 03:11 PM by FRIGHTENER


Y.W. . . .anytime.
Some false flag operations definately are there. The blast in October claiming two lives, explained by teargas grenades gone astray

I only learned that phrase this year, on ATS! And teargas astray-whoooa; flashback to Waco.
The U-Tapao base has been opened for civil traffic, but as it served well for delivering bombs over Vietnam, it doesn't serve the purpose of evacuating human beings that well.

How true (frowning at irony!) I feel bad for all stranded, especially Faye Peacock; but grinned slightly at the "Hotel California" reference! Guess ya gotta have big bucks for private charter to escape!
There's plenty of info about on people trying to get out, but what about those who are scheduled to go there in the coming days?
Like myself.. I have close ties to Thailand and a family there ...and a ticket for next Sunday.

(Not smiling now) Hope you can re-schedule your travel there; now's not the best time, I think. Could land in the middle of a riot...don't want anything to happen to you, or your family. Cost of a ticket is cheap, compared to risking life & limb; or huge delays & lost time, etc...
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:55 PM by khunmoon


Thank you Frightener.

Come to look at your signature it sums up the general situation in Thailand quite well. Coincidence I guess. What is to worry about now is when they got no government or king ...or king. Then carnage is inevitable.

Following the development --notice it's already slipping out of MSM-- it's getting more and more depressing, and despite the declining interest things are tightening up in Bangkok.

The protesters from government house has been ordered to the airport to strengthen the siege there.

Police has put up a cordon around Survanabhumi to separate the pro-government protester (redshirts) starting to arrive in large numbers.

A bomb has gone off at Don Muang today.

Airport authorities have said before they can resume operation when the siege has ended, they will need at least a week to check IT-systems. If damage is done they might need several weeks before they can open.

Some 40 planes out of 88 that has been given permission (by the protesters) to leave, empty, to pick up stranded passengers at other airports.

Most interesting, Tuesday the constitutional court will rule in a case on vote fraud against PPP. If the ruling goes against them the government will fall ...and then all hell will be loose.

I'm in no favour of military rule under any circumstances, but in this case I don't know. and though I have sympathy for PAD, they in this case are total irresponsible and very childish in their behavior. Look at the pictures, it's one big party to them!

What's happening now can be fatal to Thailand.

Anyway, here's a few links.

Allies to stick with PPP
PAD leaves Govt House, shifts camp to airports
Airports cannot be reopened quickly

A recommendation for anyone who seriously wanna know about Thai politics and try to grasp its very special psyche, a book banned in Thailand. Paul Handley: The King Never Smiles

[edit on 1/12/2008 by khunmoon]



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