I'm Not So Sure I Want Everyone To Know About UFOs, page 2
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 06:00 PM by MsSmartypants
reply to post by gimme_some_truth



Those of us who take ufology seriously and do our research feel that we hold a knowledge and awareness that will surely have a profound effect on mankind. The information is there for all to find but we take the time to do it.


reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 07:58 PM by MsSmartypants
reply to post by jsn079



Of course we don't need that, but there's a good chance that the decision to disclose or not, and what and how much to disclose is probably in the hands of a very powerful few.


reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:08 PM by MsSmartypants
reply to post by zorgon



Well of course I want to see the sketche! Is it the one that landed in front of him and three other men with cameras? Though I was never really clear on whether Mr. Mitchell was actually there.

[edit on 11/22/2008 by MsSmartypants]


reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 03:23 AM by ziggystar60
Originally posted by MsSmartypants
Is it the one that landed in front of him and three other men with cameras? Though I was never really clear on whether Mr. Mitchell was actually there.

[edit on 11/22/2008 by MsSmartypants]


I think you perhaps confuse Edgar Mitchell and Gordon Cooper. This is Cooper's experence:

The incident took place in the late 1950s, either 1957 or 1958 - as Cooper can best recall; and to this day, the photographic evidence of an actual UFO touching down upon the Earth is being kept under wraps.

During this period, Cooper was a Project Manager at Edwards Air Force Base, just three or four years before entering America's space program. After lunch this particular day, Cooper had assigned a team of photographers to an area of the vast dry lake beds near Edwards.

In a taped interview with UFOlogist Lee Spiegel, the former Astronaut disclosed that while the crew was out there, they spotted a strange-looking craft above the lake bed, and they began taking films of it.

Cooper says the object was very definitely "hovering above the ground. And then it slowly came down and sat on the lake bed for a few minutes." All during this time the motion picture cameras were filming away.

"There were varied estimates by the cameramen on what the actual size of the object was," Cooper confesses, "but they all agreed that it was at least the size of a vehicle that would carry normal-sized people in it."

Col. Cooper was not fortunate enough to be outside at the time of this incredible encounter, but he did see the films as soon as they were rushed through the development process.

"It was a typical circular-shaped UFO," he recollects. "Not too many people saw it, because it took off at quite a sharp angle and just climbed straight on out of sight!"

Cooper admits he didn't take any kind of poll to determine who had seen the craft, 'because there were always strange things flying around in the air over Edwards.' This is a statement Lee Spiegel was able to verify through his own research efforts, having obtained closely guarded tapes of conversations between military pilots circling the base and their commanding officers in the flight tower, tracking the presence of unknown objects.

"People just didn't ask a lot of questions about things they saw and couldn't understand,' notes Cooper, who adds that it was a lot simpler to look the other way, shrug one's shoulders, and chalk up what had been seen to 'just another experimental aircraft that must have been developed at another area of the air base."

But what about the photographic proof - the motion picture footage - that was taken?

"I think it was definitely a UFO," Cooper states, as he makes no bones about it. 'However, where it (the object) came from and who was in it is hard to determine, because it didn't stay around long enough to discuss the matter - there wasn't even time to send out a welcoming committee!

After he reviewed the film at least a dozen times, the footage was quickly forwarded to Washington. Cooper no doubt expected to get a reply in a few weeks' time as to what his men had seen and photographed, but there was no word, and the movie *vanished* - never to surface again...

www.ufologie.net...


reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 04:12 AM by ziggystar60
reply to post by zorgon



I think we are all talking a bit past each other here. I guess I misundestood what the OP meant.
And I think I will shut up now before I confuse myself any further.



reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 05:12 AM by Nox Vulpes
reply to post by MsSmartypants



I hear what you are saying, and I share many of your sentiments. For as long as I can remember, I've been a believer in UFOs/ET visitation (could have something to do with E.T. being the first film I saw as a child) and have been eagerly awaiting confirmation or full disclosure. Personally, I would love to discuss these things with my friends and family - or even random strangers on the street - without feeling like the local weirdo. I generally keep my opinions on this stuff pretty private in the real world...unless I've had a few drinks - then: beware! Those who know me are fairly accepting of my "wild ideas", and I'm given a little credit because I am perceived as being reasonably intelligent, but it would be so nice to have a real conversation with hard facts and information to back it up.

The internet is new territory for me, but I see how online communities develop. People may lose their "X-Files" identities, but I think there would be so much more to gain if these topics achieved real mainstream acceptance.

Interesting topic, thank you.


reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 10:01 AM by MegaCurious
reply to post by MsSmartypants



This is bogus.

There will not be any "disclosure". Especially when the folks doing the deciding have way more advanced technology than you do and don't want you to find out anything like that.

But, I mean, really. Even if a hundred people saw some aliens running through a downtown somewhere, all the "news caster" would say is "Don't rush to judgement anyone, until we find out what 'really' happened".

So if you want disclosure, the most disclosure we'll get is what we have now.

Thats the end of this "disclosure" topic.
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