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Topic started on 22-11-2008 @ 04:06 PM by semjaseforever

Well i am not one for the `new age` stuff as a lot of it is way too comic book like for my liking, plus the blossom goodchild saga and all the `love and light` was really doing my head in.

Yet i fully believe that the veil of third dimension (the reality we live in) is slowly being lifted step by step like a child taking its first steps.. slowly but surely to prepare him for actual walking same thing here... the massive increase in sightings crafts etc etc... plus every single credible witness who has had a contact from non hostile ets has said that our world is changing, and humanity is moving slowly into fourth dimension!

Well all this until now is just talk and speculation with no tangible evidence to the naked eye... or is it?

science.nasa.gov...

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Nov. 19, 2008: An international team of researchers has discovered a puzzling surplus of high-energy electrons bombarding Earth from space. The source of these cosmic rays is unknown, but it must be close to the solar system and it could be made of dark matter. Their results are being reported in the Nov. 20th issue of the journal Nature.

"This is a big discovery," says co-author John Wefel of Louisiana State University. "It's the first time we've seen a discrete source of accelerated cosmic rays standing out from the general galactic background."

Galactic cosmic rays are subatomic particles accelerated to almost light speed by distant supernova explosions and other violent events. They swarm through the Milky Way, forming a haze of high energy particles that enter the solar system from all directions. Cosmic rays consist mostly of protons and heavier atomic nuclei with a dash of electrons and photons spicing the mix.

To study the most powerful and interesting cosmic rays, Wefel and colleagues have spent the last eight years flying a series of balloons through the stratosphere over Antarctica. Each time the payload was a NASA-funded cosmic ray detector named ATIC, short for Advanced Thin Ionization Calorimeter. The team expected ATIC to tally the usual mix of particles, mainly protons and ions, but the calorimeter found something extra: an abundance of high-energy electrons.

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"The source of these exotic electrons must be relatively close to the solar system—no more than a kiloparsec away," says co-author Jim Adams of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center.

Why must the source be nearby? Adams explains: "High-energy electrons lose energy rapidly as they fly through the galaxy. They give up energy in two main ways: (1) when they collide with lower-energy photons, a process called inverse Compton scattering, and (2) when they radiate away some of their energy by spiraling through the galaxy's magnetic field." By the time an electron has traveled a whole kiloparsec, it isn't so 'high energy' any more.

High-energy electrons are therefore local. Some members of the research team believe the source could be less than a few hundred parsecs away. For comparison, the disk of the spiral Milky Way galaxy is about thirty thousand parsecs wide. (One parsec approximately equals three light years.)
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you must read the full article................... scientific evidence of something being released from above into our atmosphere.... you dont need to be into all the `love and light` to realise that humanity is changing

anyway comments on my extremely important post... it may not have been a `pic of little green men` but its important as ANY post could be as it affects our atmosphere!!!!

this also gives a lot of credibiliy to the new age `shining their rays of light upon us` as hard as it is to believe there is now physical evidence.

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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 05:32 PM by blujay

I'm amazed right now! What a great 'discovery', now things will begin to get interesting!

reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 05:44 PM by Solomons

What on earth does this have to do with aliens or ufo's?

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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 06:13 PM by semjaseforever

Originally posted by Solomons
What on earth does this have to do with aliens or ufo's?

Two lines

reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 06:17 PM by Solomons

Originally posted by semjaseforever

Originally posted by Solomons
What on earth does this have to do with aliens or ufo's?

Two lines

not all et related stuff is about pics of flying discs and green men you realise

...I still fail to see how this has anything to do with et's.This should be in the science section....unless you want to state as to why this is related to Et's.

reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 06:23 PM by Steve B

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I totally agree with solomon this has nothing to do with UFO's. But Semjase (lol at the name) seems to be suggesting that the origin of these extra high energy electrons is extraterrestrial.

So Semjase why do you think these electrons aren't natural in origin? did you miss this paragraph?

This uncertainty gives free rein to the imagination. The least exotic possibilities include, e.g., a nearby pulsar, a 'microquasar' or a stellar-mass black hole—all are capable of accelerating electrons to these energies. It is possible that such a source lurks undetected not far away. NASA's recently-launched Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope is only just beginning to survey the sky with sufficient sensitivity to reveal some of these objects.

reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 06:26 PM by mrwupy

OK, so we're getting bombarded by high energy electrons, what in Gods name does that have to do with enlightenment?

Remember back in the 60's when the government sent up satellites that could detect Gamma radiation? The purpose was to detect the detonation of nukes from anywhere on the planet. The satellites started getting blasted with gamma radiation a couple of times a day and they didn't know why. It turned out that the death of massive stars from far, far away were blasting us with the crap all along, we just didn't know it.

Gamma radiation didn't take us to some new level, I doubt high energy electrons will either.

You made a leap here and I just can't make that leap with you.

Nice find though.

reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 12:08 AM by Thurisaz

Interesting article... just wonder though what effect high-energy electrons has on us?

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reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 12:17 AM by TheRedneck

Considering that the entire solar system has just undergone a warming trend, and the only earthly solution we have is apparently CO2 molecules (

), I'd say this is interesting to say the least. No one has explained to me how CO2 manages to heat up Mars or Saturn, but high-energy electrons form outer space could indeed do just that.

I think maybe we have something here that needs to be investigated much closer. I'm starring the OP and flagging this thread (and bookmarking the info).

TheRedneck

reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 05:54 AM by squiz

Consider...

The particles are obviously following along the field lines connecting the Earths magnetic pole, whether they're linked to the Sun or extending out into the outer solar system depends on the direction of the interplanetary field lines.

Polar rain is an effect when fast moving electrons can move easily against a weakened solar wind, because of their high energy they can easily move both ways along the field lines.
Polar rain has been observed during periods when the solar wind has been diminished and from both directions I believe.
I assume the field lines were pointing away from the sun, with The north pole connected to the sun and the south pole field lines leading away.

The real significance is the high energy.
I don't buy into the dark matter thing. The super nova idea is plausible. It wasn't too long ago NASA announced with one of their secretive press releases the discovery of a relatively nearby and recent super nova.

Particles can also be accelerated by a process called magnetic reconnection, It is also been suggested that AGN or black holes can cause magnetic reconnection on a much larger scale.

Corrections are welcome but here's where I separate from the mainstream.

Magnetic reconnection is false or rather misidentified, Black holes, Dark matter/energy and Neutron stars are fictional. All are oversights of the painfully obvious and incredibly powerful role of electromagnetism in the universe.

Oh, and I sound like a broken record every time one these things makes news.

I think they discovered another piece of the interplanetary or perhaps even interstellar circuitry, or a new piece resulting from the weakened sun.
I also think the overall circuitry does have an effect biologically,
Simply because we are connected to it.

reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 07:00 AM by Astyanax

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These speculations are absolutely unwarranted by the science. ET is not hovering angelically just above the outer limits of our atmosphere, raining good vibes and enlightenment down on us (in the form of potentially lethal cosmic rays, yet). This source is only close only in cosmic terms.

"The source of these exotic electrons must be relatively close to the solar system—no more than a kiloparsec away," says co-author Jim Adams of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center...

Some members of the research team believe the source could be less than a few hundred parsecs away....

One parsec approximately equals three light years*.

[Source: quoted in OP]

you must read the full article................... scientific evidence of something being released from above into our atmosphere

From above?

From between a few hundred and 3,000 light-years away.

For comparison, the nearest star is only four light years away.

Do you know how many stars there are in a volume of space 3,000 light-years in radius? Even in our neighbourhood, where the average density is pretty low? Well, consider this: the farthest star visible to the naked eye, under the best of conditions, is about 4,075 light-years away. Most of the stars you see in the night sky are also receiving Enlightenment Rain from your cosmic-ray source.

But you reckon it's just for us, eh? Enlightenment coming.

Well, let's hope it comes soon. Some of us really need it.

*3.26, if anyone's really interested.

reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 11:49 AM by constantwonder

This is just ultra wild speculation but could it not be high energy particles shooting off along the magnetic field lines of a once quiet stellar mass black hole near us (cosmicly near ie far away as hell) that has recently happened upon a gas cloud or something that it decided looked better than the ham sandwhich im currently mashing into my own face?

reply posted on 22-12-2008 @ 01:39 PM by John Matrix

The high energy particles are probably a means of communicating with all the et's and could also be part of their guidance system. In other words, it's a high energy scanner/communicator.

Nothing to worry about. They are coming. It is what it is.
Have a nice day.

reply posted on 22-12-2008 @ 03:58 PM by clay2 baraka

Originally posted by semjaseforever
plus every single credible witness who has had a contact from non hostile ets has said that our world is changing, and humanity is moving slowly into fourth dimension!

The fourth dimension as time

Often, when a reference is made to the fourth dimension, it is the temporal interpretation which is meant. In this case, the four coordinates are understood to represent 3 dimensions of space plus 1 dimension of time. Such a space is called a Minkowski space or "(3 + 1)-space", and is the space used in Einstein's theories of special relativity and general relativity.

Bertrand Russell explains that in Relativity it is more relevant to speak of "space-time" than to discourse on "space and time". He goes on, "... because that is, from a philosophical and imaginative point of view, perhaps the most important of all the novelties that Einstein introduced."

I agree with those that say we are moving forward in time.

Is it possible that they are referring to dimensions beyond 4, such as the 5th dimension, etc.?

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